Door panels & slide locks - advice?
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Door panels & slide locks - advice?
So I have finally pulled the trigger on fixing up the interior of my '80 F-150. My new door panels arrived today, so even though my window parts haven't arrived yet, I've decided to pull the passenger side door panel to see what's what.
What I've discovered is that I am not sure how to actually get the panel off the door without damaging the slider portion of the lock - I guess my truck is unusual in that both of the sliders are intact, and I'd like to keep it that way. But while I can detach the door panel from the door itself, I can't disconnect the rod that connects to the slider - I'm worried if I twist the panel any more than I have, something will snap.
Is there a trick I am missing?
What I've discovered is that I am not sure how to actually get the panel off the door without damaging the slider portion of the lock - I guess my truck is unusual in that both of the sliders are intact, and I'd like to keep it that way. But while I can detach the door panel from the door itself, I can't disconnect the rod that connects to the slider - I'm worried if I twist the panel any more than I have, something will snap.
Is there a trick I am missing?
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Is yours converted over to conventional locks? Or do you just have no interior locks at all?
I'm thinking now that if I can remove the inside door handle, I should be able to rotate the panel enough to get the connecting rod out of the slider without breaking it. Alternately, I can just cut the old panel in half at the lock slider hole and remove it that way. It's not like I'm going to want to keep those ratty old panels around anyway.
Of course, that doesn't solve the problem of getting the new panels on afterward. Still hoping for some advice here.
I'm thinking now that if I can remove the inside door handle, I should be able to rotate the panel enough to get the connecting rod out of the slider without breaking it. Alternately, I can just cut the old panel in half at the lock slider hole and remove it that way. It's not like I'm going to want to keep those ratty old panels around anyway.
Of course, that doesn't solve the problem of getting the new panels on afterward. Still hoping for some advice here.
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There is a hole in the door panel that the slider is mounted in. The slider has two tabs and it snaps into the the panel. The tabs are located on top and bottom.
When I remove the panel, I pop all the Christmas tree studs out. Then reach up inside and pop the slider out from the back with your hand. (You may be able to pop it out by prying with a screw driver?? Never tried though.) Once the tab is popped out, you can just rotate the tab instead of the whole door. Its easier to wiggle around and slide off.
Don't try to twist the whole door. I did this a couple times and then broke my slider the third. The sliding support is rather weak and only melted together. You can buy new ones, but they don't have many colors and you have to paint them.
When I remove the panel, I pop all the Christmas tree studs out. Then reach up inside and pop the slider out from the back with your hand. (You may be able to pop it out by prying with a screw driver?? Never tried though.) Once the tab is popped out, you can just rotate the tab instead of the whole door. Its easier to wiggle around and slide off.
Don't try to twist the whole door. I did this a couple times and then broke my slider the third. The sliding support is rather weak and only melted together. You can buy new ones, but they don't have many colors and you have to paint them.
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There is a hole in the door panel that the slider is mounted in. The slider has two tabs and it snaps into the the panel. The tabs are located on top and bottom.
When I remove the panel, I pop all the Christmas tree studs out. Then reach up inside and pop the slider out from the back with your hand. (You may be able to pop it out by prying with a screw driver?? Never tried though.) Once the tab is popped out, you can just rotate the tab instead of the whole door. Its easier to wiggle around and slide off.
Don't try to twist the whole door. I did this a couple times and then broke my slider the third. The sliding support is rather weak and only melted together. You can buy new ones, but they don't have many colors and you have to paint them.
When I remove the panel, I pop all the Christmas tree studs out. Then reach up inside and pop the slider out from the back with your hand. (You may be able to pop it out by prying with a screw driver?? Never tried though.) Once the tab is popped out, you can just rotate the tab instead of the whole door. Its easier to wiggle around and slide off.
Don't try to twist the whole door. I did this a couple times and then broke my slider the third. The sliding support is rather weak and only melted together. You can buy new ones, but they don't have many colors and you have to paint them.
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Thank you all who have responded - updates tomorrow.
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Is yours converted over to conventional locks? Or do you just have no interior locks at all?
I'm thinking now that if I can remove the inside door handle, I should be able to rotate the panel enough to get the connecting rod out of the slider without breaking it. Alternately, I can just cut the old panel in half at the lock slider hole and remove it that way. It's not like I'm going to want to keep those ratty old panels around anyway.
Of course, that doesn't solve the problem of getting the new panels on afterward. Still hoping for some advice here.
I'm thinking now that if I can remove the inside door handle, I should be able to rotate the panel enough to get the connecting rod out of the slider without breaking it. Alternately, I can just cut the old panel in half at the lock slider hole and remove it that way. It's not like I'm going to want to keep those ratty old panels around anyway.
Of course, that doesn't solve the problem of getting the new panels on afterward. Still hoping for some advice here.
My door panels look in good shape just need to repaint them as someone used black spray paint on them.
Not long ago someone posted you can get new sliders think thru Denis Carpenter so when the time comes I can buy them.
They say if use change out the latch/lock assy. for the newer one you can have the lock rod come out the top. Then you need to deal with a lock hole in the door panels. If you don't change the latch/lock the rod works backwards - up to lock, down to unlock.
Dave ----
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Right now I have nothing, the truck was a mess when I got it, no slider locks at all.
My door panels look in good shape just need to repaint them as someone used black spray paint on them.
Not long ago someone posted you can get new sliders think thru Denis Carpenter so when the time comes I can buy them.
They say if use change out the latch/lock assy. for the newer one you can have the lock rod come out the top. Then you need to deal with a lock hole in the door panels. If you don't change the latch/lock the rod works backwards - up to lock, down to unlock.
Dave ----
My door panels look in good shape just need to repaint them as someone used black spray paint on them.
Not long ago someone posted you can get new sliders think thru Denis Carpenter so when the time comes I can buy them.
They say if use change out the latch/lock assy. for the newer one you can have the lock rod come out the top. Then you need to deal with a lock hole in the door panels. If you don't change the latch/lock the rod works backwards - up to lock, down to unlock.
Dave ----
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So now I have the door panel off, and as soon as LMC finds my my window parts and weatherseal order I'll start getting some real work done.