Hi Bismic.. actually if you read my posts I am very thankful for those people who took the time to help,except that one guy who didn't help at all. That includes when you have taken the time to write, I do appreciate that. Just because I share my experience or what I have read and it doesn't match others suggestions doesn't mean at all I am not thankful. In those cases I am trying to find out the correct information. I have for instance read in some posts you need 175-200 rpm to make the truck fire, 11 volts at the FICM, when you read the Ford Bible and another Ford diagnostic sheet that both say 100 rpm and 8 volts. Again not saying that's good but those are the minimums and when you are trying your best to get this thing running, I need to be clear on what the minimums are. They do say low RPM will extend crank times. Anyway, that's my only point.