Originally Posted by
NumberDummy
1957/63 and 1964/72 truck parts catalogs show the T-86 with a removable cover on top.
1964/72 truck parts catalog pic shows the T-85 with a removable cover on top.
I listed the part numbers for both of the covers in my previous post...they are different numbers.
I don't have a T-86 around here to look at, but I do have a T-85...as my 1965 F100 has one. It's been in there since the truck was new.
And I know it's original...because I bought the truck new.
One of the pics you posted has T-87 marked on it.
T-87's are a H/D 3 speed manual that were not offered in F100's (F250/350's and P Series Parcel Delivery's only). T-87's were not available with overdrive.
Regardless, a T-85 will NOT fit a 223 engine...no ifs, ands or buts!
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215 & 223 I-6 engines are totally different than 240/300's.
For one thing...
215/223's have the intake/exhaust manifolds mounted on the drivers side of the block.
These parts are on the passenger side on 240/300's.
240/300's used the T-85N overdrive, they were not available with T-86's.
From the VIN engine code (4th digit: J), that 1965 F100 on ebay has a 240.
J was used in 1965 only for 240's. A was used from 1966 thru 1974 for 240's.
J was also used thru 1964 for 223's.
Ok so,
We've got numbers and more numbers and applications and applications, but not tied together
We all know a T-85 looks like...we all agree that it's the one one in the exploded drawing I posted.
And I know that the transmission in the picture is not a T-87 you told me that the last time I posted that picture, but I can't change it. That's irrelevant.
I believe that the transmission I have pictured on the floor and mounted behind the green engine is the transmission that would go in his 56 F-100 truck (even if it's a T-5000) especially since it is in a 53 Ford F-100 mounted behind a 223!!!!! in the picture. It DOES NOT have a top cover, it has a side cover. So if the two transmissions pictured
aren't T-86s which is what you said
has to go on that vehicle, and in that picture IS on THAT vehicle behind THAT ENGINE, then what transmission is it? Something with our data is WRONG I think!