Thanks Sean! i did get back on the Ford saddle. picked me up a nice little 95 Stang...331 stroker full bolt ons. art carr trans. got a great deal on it. after driving an import for a week or so. i couldnt stand it anymore lol...had to have another Ford. compromised a bit on the MPG. but ANYTHING is better than 7.5mpg on the Excursion.