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ArdWrknTrk 02-05-2010 05:01 AM

That's what I thought.....

With the internally regulated 2G alternator all you need to use is the light green/red wire from your old harness.
You will need a chunk of harness from the 3G donor and a 175A fuse, or you can buy a harness kit as pictured in post 41.

muleguitar 02-05-2010 10:54 AM

I just scored a 3G from the Junkyard for 20 bucks. Clipped out the harness and 4 gauge charging wire to go with it. Chaching! it was 1/2 off day at the pick-a-part. It would have been cheaper than 20, but he charged me for the wiring harness. Oh, and i took it out of a Ford Windstar. It appears as if the van went to the junkyard right after a brand new autozone alternator was installed. It still has the sticker with the numbers on it, i wonder if i can obtain the warranty for it. Baller on a Dollar!

Alcaeus 11-28-2012 04:18 PM

Just to be clear.

I've upgraded to an alternator from a 1994 F150 from my 1G externally regulated unit and frigged up wiring. Is that 3G?

Do I still need the 175 amp fuse if i'm using the wiring harness from the 1994 from alternator to solenoid?

81ChopTop 11-28-2012 04:34 PM

Yes, that is a 3G alternator. To be on the safe side, I'd run a fuse, as long as the factory harness does not have a fusable link.

Alcaeus 11-28-2012 05:21 PM

I've got a fuseable link going to the rest of the truck but not from the alternator to the solenoid so I'll get the fuse. Thanks!

armashby 02-28-2013 11:16 AM

3G Alternator Install
 
Sorry for the stupid question. I am doing the 3G upgrade to my 86 F350 460 4 Barrel Holly. Am I correct in thinking I can operate the stock choke 7-8 volts off of the "S" term. white/blk. term of the alt. Thanks for your help Rodger

ArdWrknTrk 02-28-2013 11:20 AM

Sure, it works for me!

1967 Tempest 01-11-2014 07:41 AM

This is a great thread. Currently my 86 4.9L looks like it has a 2G. Not sure of amperage, but HAS to be low as this thing has headlights and heat and thats it!!

So are all of the 130A 3G's the bigger 8.25" case? I want to add electric fans and start wiring this thing on relays. Headlights etc.. Plus have room left over on alternator. The 130A sounds like it is for me.

Is there a direct bolt in 130A 3G?

Thanks!

Dave

ArdWrknTrk 01-11-2014 07:56 AM

Dave,
The 2G is only about 60-65A

You are a little confused.
The 3G comes in two case diameters, 135mm (95A, 4 hole) and 148mm (130A, 2 hole)

Both sizes come in a few mounting styles.
7" C-C pivot (3.0V-6)
8.25" C-C pivot (3.8V-6)
Side mount
Odd front 'V' mount. (for Mod motors I think)

I made the mistake before -but now know- that the 4.9 mount takes the 8.25" C-C spacing.
Look for one from a '90-'93 3.8l V6 Taurus/Sable.

You will need:
A new charge cable with 175A fuse inline
To tap the adjuster ear of your new alternator to 3/8-16
To modify your current regulator plug as shown at the bottom of post #41
Change over to your current V-belt pulley. (add a shim washer so it doesn't rub the case)

ArdWrknTrk 01-11-2014 08:20 AM

I got this from Amazon;

Models:

Ford Car & Lt Trk

1990 Taurus 3.8L V6, Optional 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator
1991 Taurus 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit
1992 Taurus 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit
1993 Taurus 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit

1995 Windstar 3.8L V6, Early 1995

Lincoln Car & Lt Trk

1991 Continental 3.8L V6, 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator
1992 Continental 3.8L V6, 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator
1993 Continental 3.8L V6, 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator
1994 Continental 3.8L V6, 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator

Mercury Car & Lt Trk

1990 Sable 3.8L V6, Optional 130 Amp Unit, w/Internal Regulator
1991 Sable 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit
1992 Sable 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit
1993 Sable 3.8L V6, Stanard 130 Amp Unit

Replaces:

AC Delco
321-1305, 334-2009

Bosch Newman
AL7508N

Denso First Time Fit
210-5209, 210-5211

Ford
F0DF-10300-BA, F0DU-10300-BB,
F0DU-10300-BC, F0DZ-10346-B,
F0DZ-10346-C, F0DZ-10346-E,
F0PU-10346-AD, F58U-10300-AA

Ford Engineering
F0DF-BA, F0DU-BB,
F0DU-BC, F58U-AA

Motorcraft
GL-278, GL-301, GL-310

1967 Tempest 01-11-2014 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk (Post 13941261)
Rick,
The 2G is only about 60-65A

You are a little confused.
The 3G comes in two case diameters, 135mm (95A, 4 hole) and 148mm (130A, 2 hole)

Both sizes come in a few mounting styles.
7" C-C pivot (3.0V-6)
8.25" C-C pivot (3.8V-6)
Side mount
Odd front 'V' mount for Mod motors.

I made the mistake before -but now know- that the 4.9 mount takes the 8.25" C-C spacing.
Look for one from a '90-'93 3.8l V6 Taurus/Sable.

You will need
A new charge cable with 175A fuse inline
To tap the adjuster ear of your new alternator to 3/8-16
To modify your current regulator plug as shown at the bottom of post #41
Change over to your current V-belt pulley. (add a shim washer so it doesn't rub the case)


Ah yes, I thought that the 4.9 had the 7". Thanks!!! I will try and find a 8.25" for cheap. I am in no rush as the "Fire" alternator still works. I do like the "Ryan" install. I looked, and maybe I passed it, do they sell that as a Kit?

ArdWrknTrk 01-11-2014 08:52 AM

It seems RJM Injection Technologies (Ryan McCormack's web store) had some fulfillment issues and has now vanished from the web.
There are threads about this... :(

His products were well thought out and high quality from my experience.

1967 Tempest 01-14-2014 08:35 AM

$81.60!!! Weird price, but cheap!!! I think this is gonna get bought!!!

New Alternator Ford Lincoln Mercury 3 8L DB Electrical | eBay

ArdWrknTrk 01-14-2014 08:50 AM

I have a DB PMGR starter in my truck.
Chinese yes, but it is doing the job.
Their feedback rating is very good.

My 3G was a Motorcraft branded rebuild from old stock (if the box is any indication)

Found both on Ebay.

Gary Lewis 01-14-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by 1967 Tempest (Post 13952184)
$81.60!!! Weird price, but cheap!!! I think this is gonna get bought!!!

New Alternator Ford Lincoln Mercury 3 8L DB Electrical | eBay

Let us know what you decide and how it works, please. I may well want to follow your lead.


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