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ford4.9 11-27-2005 12:11 PM

what should they fix
 
Clearly there was problems with the 6.0. From what I have read most of them where with the turbo, the sensors, egrs, head gaskets (maybe because of the previous three), and oil leaks. For the most part, the bottom end seems to be good. Sense there replacing the turbo with turbos maybe that will fix the turbo problem, but what about the rest? what would you all like to see ford do? More head studs? More sensors? better sensors? no sensors? egrs? oil leaks?

PowerstrokeJunkie 11-27-2005 01:43 PM

i would personally like to see head studs and o-ringed heads. the boost pressure on this engine from the factory will most likely be above 35psi. it is just hard to make that much power with this relatively small displacement (compared to OTR engines) without that much boost. not to mention the wave of performance mods that will come out soon after release that will make alot more boost. i would also like to see new and improved split-shot injectors. Less EGR's will be nice too, but it isnt going to happen. good thing they have a plug on them. the bottom ends on these things are immaculate, to say the least.

what i would like most of all, is better reliability. the only thing that is wrong with our 6.0 is reliabilty. if they could get the reliabilty close to the late-model 7.3's, then this will be an awesome engine, that will spank the 7.3 power-wise, and if it has that kind of reliability, it will be even better. sure it is going to have teething problems, which time will only fix. the legendary 7.3 even had its fair share of teething problems. if ford did enough of their homework, then this engine should be very reliable, based on the number of years in development. if the 6.0 would have stayed out longer, it too would become reliable. i think that 2003 and 2004 model engines were the R&D of the engine, and the model years 2005 and 2006, ford started to a higher percentage of these right.

one thing i DO NOT want to see, is a quiet engine, such as the Durasmack. that thing is just too quiet, one reason why i hate it. this engine will most likely have the same top-end rumble that the VT365 has, and that is awesome.

IB Tim 11-27-2005 02:51 PM


i would personally like to see head studs and o-ringed heads.
That would be my vote, they seem to, on many occasions have gotten most if not all bugs worked out of the electronics and injectors.
Of course that is only my opinion ;)

ford4.9 11-27-2005 03:01 PM

Do you think a good part of the problems with head gaskets where cause by the failure of egr's and injectors leaking fluid into combustion?

PowerstrokeJunkie 11-27-2005 09:03 PM

hardly. modified trucks were running wayy too much pressure to safely run stock bolts, and over time, it stretched the bolts. eventually the cylinders pressed the heads up off of the surface of the gasket, and at the right time, it will blow out a gasket.

Customz 11-27-2005 10:22 PM

I haven't heard of any turbo problems and I think ford has fixed everything.

I believe they should keep an eye on the head gaskets and egr...nature of the beast.

Jerme 11-27-2005 10:58 PM

I think the turbo problems were just the variable vanes sticking, but twins will definently take care of that.

kw5413 11-28-2005 09:49 AM

Well, as much as I absolutely despise the EGR Valve strategy...I know, you are all shocked about that little revelation...If Ford goes with the bigger dual EGR Valves and Coolers, we should see some relief.

With that said however, I fear this strategy will only delay the inevitable. We will still see EGR Valves sticking just not as quickly.

Coolant loss...no matter the reason...needs to go away.

I wonder how many sensors they will add?

ford4.9 11-28-2005 11:40 AM

I don't see a decrease in sensors. I just hope that they test them and not buy from the cheapest company out there.

ford4.9 11-28-2005 11:43 AM

What I don't get about the 6.0 is the oil leaks? Why has this not been address?? It seems that all years have it.

SpartanDieselTech 11-28-2005 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by ford4.9
I don't see a decrease in sensors. I just hope that they test them and not buy from the cheapest company out there.

No kidding :-X19 I think sensor reliability is where MOST of the 6.0's problem lies...Ford really dropped the ball on that one.

mhannink 11-29-2005 11:22 PM

or the should just dump the whole psd program and go w/ a cat or other heavy duty engine(to bad dodge is keeping cummins)

NickFordMan 11-30-2005 12:13 AM

Let's not start that up...

mhannink 11-30-2005 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by NickFordMan
Let's not start that up...

why not i think a cat tho low rpm would be a great motor finally be able to compte w/ the dodges

NickFordMan 12-01-2005 12:52 AM

...and so it starts...
I was reffering to the Cummins comment...if you want one so bad, just go buy a Dodge. The Powerstroke has been dominating performance the last time I checked. The 6.0L is making less torque right now, and is slightly slower of the line due to this (and I mean slightly)...but manages to man-handle the competitors like nothing. Don't give me this Cummins crap.


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