HELP! No oil in oil filter housing.
 

I need help i am working on a 2008 Ford f250 6.4

The truck came to me with a bad turbo so i replaced it after replacing them i found that it had 2 bad injectors so i went and replaced those. Now i ran the truck takes a little longer to crank but it does start then i noticed that the oil filter cap was a Napa cap and I've heard about those giving people problems i had an old oem cap laying around so i went and replace that with a motorcraft filter. went and run the truck for a bit remove the oil cap no oil came up AT ALL...

Im guessing thats how the turbo and injector went out. I need help to see if it's could be the LPOP OR HPOP problem or something else. Thanks!

injectors are not fired by a hpop. They are controlled by the pcm. There is a high pressure fuel pump that feeds them.

Better take a look at the filter and the cap and the spring inside. there should be a pool of oil in the bowl.

I am moving this to the 6.4 forum for more comments/suggestions.

if the oil filter cap was not oem was the filter also not oem? if not i would make sure it is replaced with one.

i did replace the cap and filter with oem still not getting any oil i believe the oil lines going to the turbos arent getting oil as wel

I would look further into oil housing and oil bypass valve.

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is that a extra O ring in the filter housing? is it possible the filter cap with its O ring is not seating fully?

just checked its not an extra O ring.

So when you remove the oem cap and the filter pops up there is no oil at all? It will drain back down once the lid is removed.

65 psi is the the pressure at the oil regulator. Perhaps it is bad. I would put a pressure gage on the truck and see what you are pushing.

Oil feeds the turbos from the filter.

Yes when I remove the cap no oil at all filter looks brand new

Codes, check engine light at all. This maybe a problem with the regulator. I'd look into it.

oil pressure regulator looks easy and cheap to replace on the front of the engine. i did come across some issues of needle bearings failing from the lifters. the bearings can end up in the oil pump and cause damage.


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...come-from.html
powerstroke help has a nice video that was linked in the first page of that thread.


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do you guys know where the oil pressure regulator is exactly?

Front of the motor, drives side beside the oil pan/front cover.

replace the oil pressure regulator started the truck it runs still no oil coming up.

I am afraid there is more going here then just a driveway fix. Put a true oil pressure guage on it is one idea.

Oil pump is on the front of the motor. Perhaps an issue. Clogged pickup tube maybe.

Do you have a code reader? Perhaps a code is also stored that may give a clue.

I might even suggest pulling the oil filter housing and seeing if you can determine anything.

What is the oil level on the dipstick? What kind of oil is in it?

no codes but the owner of the truck did tell me when he do his oil changes he does not always change his filter he would change his filters every 2-3 times he changes his oil
oil is full im not sure what kind of oil it is.

This is obviously is a lack of maintance and owner awareness. And now you get to fix it. This is sounding more and more like a rebuild or a crate motor needed.

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what i found the inner part has marks all around it

so did you find any metal that caused that? does not look like needle bearing carnage from other pictures i have seen. so is your plan to put in a new geroter
oil pump and see what it does?

I think I would be looking in the pan at the pick up screen as well.

well guys i got the problem fixed. I went ahead and changed out oil pump i drop the oil pan check the screen/pick up line seems to be ok i did blow air thru where the line goes to see if anything was clogged put it back together and oil is now flowing. Thanks for the help guys:-drink

Thanks for reporting back. Glad you got it fixed.

Most likey it was oil starvation from an improper filter and lack of maintance as well.

Good Job Binhtran! If you had taken it to a Ford Dealer they would have rebuilt the motor for you to fix the problem. Hope that is the only part damaged, but, time will tell.