Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis SPONSORED BY:

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-09-2014, 11:15 AM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
HELP! No oil in oil filter housing.

I need help i am working on a 2008 Ford f250 6.4

The truck came to me with a bad turbo so i replaced it after replacing them i found that it had 2 bad injectors so i went and replaced those. Now i ran the truck takes a little longer to crank but it does start then i noticed that the oil filter cap was a Napa cap and I've heard about those giving people problems i had an old oem cap laying around so i went and replace that with a motorcraft filter. went and run the truck for a bit remove the oil cap no oil came up AT ALL...

Im guessing thats how the turbo and injector went out. I need help to see if it's could be the LPOP OR HPOP problem or something else. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-09-2014, 11:47 AM
senix's Avatar
senix senix is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 19,979
senix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputation
injectors are not fired by a hpop. They are controlled by the pcm. There is a high pressure fuel pump that feeds them.

Better take a look at the filter and the cap and the spring inside. there should be a pool of oil in the bowl.

I am moving this to the 6.4 forum for more comments/suggestions.
__________________
Scott-2013 F350 with a lot of tires.
2013 40' 4-slider stoneridge 5th wheel coming in at 15,400
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

Previous Truck 2008 F250 6.4 with lots of upgrades and a suspension upgrade from Torklift International StableLoads
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:05 PM
GHeTTo JOe's Avatar
GHeTTo JOe GHeTTo JOe is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 50450 IOWA
Posts: 797
GHeTTo JOe is starting off with a positive reputation.
if the oil filter cap was not oem was the filter also not oem? if not i would make sure it is replaced with one.
__________________
2008 F-250 King Ranch Crew Cab 4x4 Auto 6.4L H&S Black Maxx. 4" Straight Pipe. 295/65R20 Toyo Open Country A/T II XTreme. High Idle Uplifter Switch 152K Miles

SOLD
1994 F-250 Super Cab 4x4 E4OD 7.3L Ford Turbo IDI Banks 2.5" DP. Hypermax cowl air induction system. 193,000miles Straight Pipe. New Front Spring Shackles! Trip Gauge A Pillar Pod
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:08 PM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GHeTTo JOe View Post
if the oil filter cap was not oem was the filter also not oem? if not i would make sure it is replaced with one.
i did replace the cap and filter with oem still not getting any oil i believe the oil lines going to the turbos arent getting oil as wel
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:12 PM
senix's Avatar
senix senix is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 19,979
senix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputation
I would look further into oil housing and oil bypass valve.
__________________
Scott-2013 F350 with a lot of tires.
2013 40' 4-slider stoneridge 5th wheel coming in at 15,400
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

Previous Truck 2008 F250 6.4 with lots of upgrades and a suspension upgrade from Torklift International StableLoads
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:32 PM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:40 PM
GHeTTo JOe's Avatar
GHeTTo JOe GHeTTo JOe is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 50450 IOWA
Posts: 797
GHeTTo JOe is starting off with a positive reputation.
is that a extra O ring in the filter housing? is it possible the filter cap with its O ring is not seating fully?
__________________
2008 F-250 King Ranch Crew Cab 4x4 Auto 6.4L H&S Black Maxx. 4" Straight Pipe. 295/65R20 Toyo Open Country A/T II XTreme. High Idle Uplifter Switch 152K Miles

SOLD
1994 F-250 Super Cab 4x4 E4OD 7.3L Ford Turbo IDI Banks 2.5" DP. Hypermax cowl air induction system. 193,000miles Straight Pipe. New Front Spring Shackles! Trip Gauge A Pillar Pod
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-09-2014, 02:59 PM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GHeTTo JOe View Post
is that a extra O ring in the filter housing? is it possible the filter cap with its O ring is not seating fully?
just checked its not an extra O ring.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-09-2014, 04:16 PM
senix's Avatar
senix senix is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 19,979
senix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputation
So when you remove the oem cap and the filter pops up there is no oil at all? It will drain back down once the lid is removed.

65 psi is the the pressure at the oil regulator. Perhaps it is bad. I would put a pressure gage on the truck and see what you are pushing.

Oil feeds the turbos from the filter.
__________________
Scott-2013 F350 with a lot of tires.
2013 40' 4-slider stoneridge 5th wheel coming in at 15,400
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

Previous Truck 2008 F250 6.4 with lots of upgrades and a suspension upgrade from Torklift International StableLoads
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-09-2014, 05:59 PM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by senix View Post
So when you remove the oem cap and the filter pops up there is no oil at all? It will drain back down once the lid is removed.

65 psi is the the pressure at the oil regulator. Perhaps it is bad. I would put a pressure gage on the truck and see what you are pushing.

Oil feeds the turbos from the filter.
Yes when I remove the cap no oil at all filter looks brand new
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-09-2014, 06:06 PM
senix's Avatar
senix senix is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 19,979
senix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputation
Codes, check engine light at all. This maybe a problem with the regulator. I'd look into it.
__________________
Scott-2013 F350 with a lot of tires.
2013 40' 4-slider stoneridge 5th wheel coming in at 15,400
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

Previous Truck 2008 F250 6.4 with lots of upgrades and a suspension upgrade from Torklift International StableLoads
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-09-2014, 10:39 PM
GHeTTo JOe's Avatar
GHeTTo JOe GHeTTo JOe is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 50450 IOWA
Posts: 797
GHeTTo JOe is starting off with a positive reputation.
oil pressure regulator looks easy and cheap to replace on the front of the engine. i did come across some issues of needle bearings failing from the lifters. the bearings can end up in the oil pump and cause damage.


http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/10...come-from.html
powerstroke help has a nice video that was linked in the first page of that thread.


Customer Concern: The engine had a squealing noise, then it began to knock. Small needle bearings were found in the oil.



Tests/Procedures: 1. These needle bearings are likely coming from the valve tappets (lifters). The lifters have a roller on the bottom and the needle bearings can come apart from them and get into the oil. In most cases, when these fail, they get into the oil pump and do heavy internal engine damage. Usually, it is a better idea to replace the motor for this concern rather than try to repair it.



__________________
2008 F-250 King Ranch Crew Cab 4x4 Auto 6.4L H&S Black Maxx. 4" Straight Pipe. 295/65R20 Toyo Open Country A/T II XTreme. High Idle Uplifter Switch 152K Miles

SOLD
1994 F-250 Super Cab 4x4 E4OD 7.3L Ford Turbo IDI Banks 2.5" DP. Hypermax cowl air induction system. 193,000miles Straight Pipe. New Front Spring Shackles! Trip Gauge A Pillar Pod
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-10-2014, 09:49 AM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by senix View Post
Codes, check engine light at all. This maybe a problem with the regulator. I'd look into it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GHeTTo JOe View Post
oil pressure regulator looks easy and cheap to replace on the front of the engine. i did come across some issues of needle bearings failing from the lifters. the bearings can end up in the oil pump and cause damage.


http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/10...come-from.html
powerstroke help has a nice video that was linked in the first page of that thread.


Customer Concern: The engine had a squealing noise, then it began to knock. Small needle bearings were found in the oil.



Tests/Procedures: 1. These needle bearings are likely coming from the valve tappets (lifters). The lifters have a roller on the bottom and the needle bearings can come apart from them and get into the oil. In most cases, when these fail, they get into the oil pump and do heavy internal engine damage. Usually, it is a better idea to replace the motor for this concern rather than try to repair it.




do you guys know where the oil pressure regulator is exactly?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-10-2014, 10:17 AM
senix's Avatar
senix senix is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 19,979
senix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputationsenix has a superb reputation
Front of the motor, drives side beside the oil pan/front cover.
__________________
Scott-2013 F350 with a lot of tires.
2013 40' 4-slider stoneridge 5th wheel coming in at 15,400
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html

Previous Truck 2008 F250 6.4 with lots of upgrades and a suspension upgrade from Torklift International StableLoads
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-10-2014, 11:32 AM
binhtran binhtran is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 10
binhtran is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by senix View Post
Front of the motor, drives side beside the oil pan/front cover.
replace the oil pressure regulator started the truck it runs still no oil coming up.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 11:32 AM
 
 
 
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oiling system upgrades/maintenance the_auto_tech 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 9 09-07-2014 08:23 AM
Finally getting studded. mxer0022 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 5 07-13-2014 10:15 PM
Finalizing maintenance and modifcation list before starting next project the_auto_tech 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 43 10-13-2013 09:33 PM
My new 97 F250 w/one picture! wezol5484 1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel 19 09-25-2013 09:40 PM
04 no start bohrer54 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 10 10-21-2012 08:31 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup