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Old 01-09-2014, 11:15 AM
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HELP! No oil in oil filter housing.

I need help i am working on a 2008 Ford f250 6.4

The truck came to me with a bad turbo so i replaced it after replacing them i found that it had 2 bad injectors so i went and replaced those. Now i ran the truck takes a little longer to crank but it does start then i noticed that the oil filter cap was a Napa cap and I've heard about those giving people problems i had an old oem cap laying around so i went and replace that with a motorcraft filter. went and run the truck for a bit remove the oil cap no oil came up AT ALL...

Im guessing thats how the turbo and injector went out. I need help to see if it's could be the LPOP OR HPOP problem or something else. Thanks!
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injectors are not fired by a hpop. They are controlled by the pcm. There is a high pressure fuel pump that feeds them.

Better take a look at the filter and the cap and the spring inside. there should be a pool of oil in the bowl.

I am moving this to the 6.4 forum for more comments/suggestions.
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if the oil filter cap was not oem was the filter also not oem? if not i would make sure it is replaced with one.
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if the oil filter cap was not oem was the filter also not oem? if not i would make sure it is replaced with one.
i did replace the cap and filter with oem still not getting any oil i believe the oil lines going to the turbos arent getting oil as wel
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I would look further into oil housing and oil bypass valve.
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is that a extra O ring in the filter housing? is it possible the filter cap with its O ring is not seating fully?
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is that a extra O ring in the filter housing? is it possible the filter cap with its O ring is not seating fully?
just checked its not an extra O ring.
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So when you remove the oem cap and the filter pops up there is no oil at all? It will drain back down once the lid is removed.

65 psi is the the pressure at the oil regulator. Perhaps it is bad. I would put a pressure gage on the truck and see what you are pushing.

Oil feeds the turbos from the filter.
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So when you remove the oem cap and the filter pops up there is no oil at all? It will drain back down once the lid is removed.

65 psi is the the pressure at the oil regulator. Perhaps it is bad. I would put a pressure gage on the truck and see what you are pushing.

Oil feeds the turbos from the filter.
Yes when I remove the cap no oil at all filter looks brand new
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Codes, check engine light at all. This maybe a problem with the regulator. I'd look into it.
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oil pressure regulator looks easy and cheap to replace on the front of the engine. i did come across some issues of needle bearings failing from the lifters. the bearings can end up in the oil pump and cause damage.


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powerstroke help has a nice video that was linked in the first page of that thread.


Customer Concern: The engine had a squealing noise, then it began to knock. Small needle bearings were found in the oil.



Tests/Procedures: 1. These needle bearings are likely coming from the valve tappets (lifters). The lifters have a roller on the bottom and the needle bearings can come apart from them and get into the oil. In most cases, when these fail, they get into the oil pump and do heavy internal engine damage. Usually, it is a better idea to replace the motor for this concern rather than try to repair it.



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Codes, check engine light at all. This maybe a problem with the regulator. I'd look into it.
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oil pressure regulator looks easy and cheap to replace on the front of the engine. i did come across some issues of needle bearings failing from the lifters. the bearings can end up in the oil pump and cause damage.


http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/10...come-from.html
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Customer Concern: The engine had a squealing noise, then it began to knock. Small needle bearings were found in the oil.



Tests/Procedures: 1. These needle bearings are likely coming from the valve tappets (lifters). The lifters have a roller on the bottom and the needle bearings can come apart from them and get into the oil. In most cases, when these fail, they get into the oil pump and do heavy internal engine damage. Usually, it is a better idea to replace the motor for this concern rather than try to repair it.




do you guys know where the oil pressure regulator is exactly?
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Front of the motor, drives side beside the oil pan/front cover.
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Front of the motor, drives side beside the oil pan/front cover.
replace the oil pressure regulator started the truck it runs still no oil coming up.
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