Alrighty. I did a cursory search and couldn't find a related link, so thought I'd start a thread about this.

My 2005 FX4 has a vibration when it gets over about 50mph. I can feel it in the steering wheel, and throughout the cab as well. It steers straight even with the vibration. What could this be?

 

Most likely your tires. They could be aligned but out of balanced. I had a similar issue with mine until I took off the ****ty stock Goodyears that came on the truck. I could never get them to be balanced correctly.

Try having them balanced.

 

Did you ever have those tires balanced at a shop with a road force balancer? They give the tech so much more info. Definitely worth the 5 or 10 extra dollars you might pay between a dealer/reputable tire shop or goobs garage.

 

I had them balanced numerous times by a GoodYear Gemini Shop. Now I know that doesn't necessarily mean they had a Road Force balancer but they just never got balanced properly. When it came time to put new tires on I went to Nitto Terra Grapplers and I have no more vibration at any speed. Also numerous other people on this forum have complained that the goodyears they had never would balance correctly.

 

The silent armors were the ones i seen the most problems with. Our road force balancer would fail them for excessive vibration and goodyear would warranty them for us. This body style truck and good year tires was the reason we got the new balancer too many vibration complaints

 

What sort of tires do you have on your truck?

 

TSB 08-24-2

12/08/08

VIBRATION DIAGNOSTICS - STEERING WHEEL
NIBBLE - TIRE WHEEL RUNOUT AND BALANCE

FORD:
2005 Excursion, Explorer Sport Trac
2005-2008 Escape, Expedition, Explorer,
F-150, F-Super Duty, Ranger
2006-2008 F-53 Motorhome Chassis
2007-2008 Explorer Sport Trac

LINCOLN:
2005-2008 Navigator
2006-2008 Mark LT

MERCURY:
2005-2008 Mariner, Mountaineer

This article supersedes TSBs 07-11-3, 07-10-8, and 07-4-5 to update the Part List and Service procedure.

ISSUE
Various Ford, Mercury and Lincoln vehicles may exhibit a vibration / steering wheel nibble above 50 MPH (80 Km/h) which may be associated to a wheel and tire vibration.

ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE

The following revisions have been made. The road test has been simplified to include 15 minutes of driving rather than a 20 mile test drive. The requirement to bring an assistant along on the road test has been eliminated. Recordings should be made using the vibration analyzer and then review recordings following the test drive. The step to inspect the Integrated Wheel Ends (IWE) has also been eliminated.

1. Long term temporary flat spotting can develop when a vehicle is stored without driving. Some initial tire and wheel vibration issues (such as flat spotting) will correct themselves after the tires have been in service for 200 miles (320 km). Confirm vehicle tires have been in service a minimum of 200 miles (320 km) to remove long term temporary flat spotting. Do not continue with this procedure if tires do not meet this requirement.

2. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 100-04 to determine if a wheel and tire speed (9-14.5 HZ) vibration is present.

a. If the vibration is wheel and tire speed proceed Step 3.

b. If not, follow the diagnostics provided in the WSM, Section 100-04.


NOTE THE VEHICLE SHOULD BE DRIVEN 15 MINUTES TO REMOVE TEMPORARY FLAT SPOTTING. SHORTER TEST DRIVES WILL RESULT IN INACCURATE RUN OUT OR ROAD FORCE(R) READINGS. IF THE VIBRATION GOES AWAY DURING THE TEST DRIVE, THE CONCERN IS DUE TO TEMPORARY TIRE FLAT SPOTTING WHICH IS A NORMAL TIRE CONDITION. NO FURTHER DIAGNOSIS OR REPAIRS SHOULD BE PERFORMED.

3. If tire and wheel vibration persists after the 15 minute road test, then complete wheel and tire radial run-out / Road Force® component test in the WSM, Section 204-04 to match mount and/or balance tire and wheel assemblies.

NOTE THE MATCH MOUNTING PROCEDURE IS MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN USING HUNTER ROAD FORCE(R) MEASUREMENT EQUIPMENT. THERE IS A WEBSITE AVAILABLE (WWW.G5P9700.COM) TO LOCATE THE NEAREST FACILITY THAT HAS THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT. ONLY USE A STANDARD BALANCER AND MANUALLY CHECK RUN OUT WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

NOTE WHEEL-TO-HUB OPTIMIZATION WHEEL-TO-HUB OPTIMIZATION IS IMPORTANT. CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE WHEEL AND HUB CAN BE USED TO OFFSET OR NEUTRALIZE THE ROAD FORCE(R) OR RUN-OUT OF THE WHEEL AND TIRE ASSEMBLY. FOR EVERY 0.001" (0.0254 MM) OF WHEEL-TO-HUB CLEARANCE, THE ROAD FORCE(R) CAN BE AFFECTED BETWEEN 1-3 LBS (0.45-1.36 Kg). DEPENDING ON THE TIRE STIFFNESS.

4. When installing tire and wheel assemblies follow WSM, Section 204-04, Wheel-to-Hub Optimization procedure. There are unique procedures for single rear wheel vehicles, dual rear wheels vehicles, and vehicles with conical shaped lug nuts.

NOTE THE SPARE TIRE SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A REPLACEMENT TIRE.

F-150 and MARK LT ONLY - If the vibration still persists continue to Step 5.

5. Perform the following based on remaining symptom:

a. If vibration still exists at 50-60 MPH (80-97 Km/h) (9-11 Hz), condition may be due to vehicle sensitivity or road inputs. Obtain Frame Damper Kit and refer to the instruction sheet included in the kit for installation.


NOTE THE DAMPER KIT WILL NOT HELP A STEERING WHEEL NIBBLE CONDITION OR A DRIVELINE VIBRATION (25-45 HZ).

NOTE CERTAIN VEHICLES ARE ALREADY EQUIPPED WITH THE FRAME DAMPER

 

Goodyear Wrangler A/T. Thanks, I'll have them checked.
Thanks, Bridge, for posting the TSB... I'll look into that, too. Paid way too much money for the truck to not have it running right.

 

Yeah the are the same tires that came on my truck as well and I never got rid of that vibration until I changed them. Although my vibration didn't usually start until around 65 mph.

 

I have a 06 FX4 F150 and getting the same vibration at th same speeds and now thanks to Coskid I am trying to get time to check my shocks and I would not waste your money on any more balance's because Ford has a problem with these trucks and will not admitt it! I have contacted several Dealers and they have a puzzled look on their face and then they say well leave it here and we'll look at it, welll a grand later the issue is still here. Like I said I am going to check my shocks next and hopefully find something.

 

Thanks to me what did I do? I mean I am happy to help but you have me a bit confused.

 

I mean I got more help from you than any other Dealer, Mechanic

 

Well great glad I was of help.

 

Coskid,
What do you know about the frame dampeners and do you have one on you truck? Where are they located? And sorry if I confused you earlier.

 

I know nothing about the Frame Dampeners and not sure if I have one or not.