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Old 07-25-2010, 03:58 AM
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66 ranchero Vin decode

need help decoding Vin the on line decoders don't like the numbers
6k29t16995 66b f 42 18a 72 4 1
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Need help decoding VIN, the online decoders don't like the numbers: 6k29t16995 66b f 42 18a 72 4 1
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6 = 1966.

K = Kansas City Assembly Plant.

29 = Falcon Ranchero Custom, Body Style 66B.

T = 200 1V I-6.

16995 = Numerical Sequence of Assembly.

66B = Falcon Ranchero Custom.

F = Light Blue.

42 = Medium Blue Crinkle all Vinyl.

18A = Assembled January 18, 1966.

72 = San Jose (NorCal) Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the vehicle from.

4 = Ford 8" Rear Axle / 3.25-1 / non Limited Slip.

1 = Ford type 2.77 3 Speed Manual Transmission.

Info source: 1965/72 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

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66 ranachero Vin decode

thanks for decoding it for me
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I have exactly the same question except mine is 6K29C. I hope that means a 170 engine.
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C code is 289 V8
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Thanks for the comeback Merlynr. Unfortunatly my books also show 289. The rub is that I took out the original 200 back in 79. Last week I removed a rubber deflector that was only used on the 6 cyl. models so my memory is not playing tricks on me. The ID number remains perplexing.
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Is that vin from the vehicle or the title?
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Both. The ID 6K29C 227778 appears on both the title and stamped in the top of the radiator support. The door plate is of no help because the door was changed. The original radiator support was changed sometime before 1979. Apparently the original number was cut out and tack welded over the junkyard number. Thats what makes me uncomfortable about the number. The State Dept. of Motor Vehicles responded this morning to a request for a full history search. Thier records only go back 5 years.

Is there another location on the rig where the numbers are reported to be hiding???
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C code is 289 2V
1963/68: A = 289 4V / K = 289 4V HiPo / T = 200 1V (introduced in 1964) / U = 170 1V.

our83: How long have you owned this Ranchero? You say you took out the original 200 in 1979, but how do you know it was the original engine...just by a rubber deflector?

That could have been changed, too. What transmission does this Ranchero have? If a C4, look on the trans for the ID tag (bolted to the round servo cover-drivers side), post the code from it.

If a 3 speed manual, does it have a syncro first gear, or not?

Whar rear axle does it have? A Ford 8" (no inspection cover), or a 7 1/4" integral (w/an inspection cover)?
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Hello again Bill, Yeah this ID number thing is a bit of a puzzle. But yes I am confident I took out the original engine (200 w/C4). As far as someone changing to a 200. It has been my experience that people who make engines swaps rarely if ever get every thing right.

I am also confident that it is a 29 series (Custom Ranchero) as the rig has numerous features matching the criteria. It also had the optional big rear springs, big brakes, and Ford 8" with 3.0 gears. But no limited slip.

I purchased this rig from owner number 2 whom was not mechanically inclined. He told me that owner No. 1 was an old man with bad eyesight and that the old guy had twice rear ended a school bus. As you know these rigs are subject to radiator support damage even on a low impact head on. With that in mind I suspect what has happened in this case is this,

In collision 1 the body shop changed the radiator support but did not cutout and retain the original ID number thereby displaying the replacement number 6K29C. For collison 2 the body shop again changes the support putting in a 1967 piece. However that shop did cut out and retained the previous number 6K29C and tack welded it over the 67 number as required by State rules. This what I think has happened. The State is unable to trace the title history as they can only go back 5 years. I have owned the rig for 31 years.

The only answer is to find the secret location of the orignal number which is always rumored to exsist.

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How many Mustangs were clobbered when new/nearly new? 10's of 1000's.

How many Mustang's have had the left inner fender apron replaced? 10's of 1000's.

The VIN was stamped on the top of that apron where it connects to the fender. There's even a cutout in the fender to read it.

So many cars were hit over the years, that VIN's on fender aprons, radiator supports are long gone.

There is a hidden VIN somewhere on your Ranchero, I haven't a clue where it is.

With a Unit-Body, it could be on the top of the stub frame that the engine/trans bolts to, possibly by the steering gearbox.

C7DZ16138A (replaced C6OZ16138A) .. Radiator Support...fits 1966/67 Falcon. The radiator support is the same 1966/67, but the 1967 upper brackets and grille are not the same as 1966.
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Bill, Your number C6DZ-A adds yet another number to my library showing the evolution of the of this part. It proves that the original C6OZ-A has been superceded at least 3 times. One can hardly expect it to to be exactly the same at this point. There is on E-Bay right now a C7DZ-A brand new (NOS). Only a glance shows numerous differences including the spacing of the grill supports, that there are only 2 louvers instead of 3 in front of the battery tray, and that they are several critical holes missing or relocated elsewhere that accomodate the 66 wire harness. However many changes there may be it still serves the same function adequately.

My 5th grade school teacher once told our class that the original George Washington hatchet had 7 different handles and 3 different heads. Food for thought.

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C6DZ was a typo (since corrected), shoulda been C6OZ.
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Somewhere when I had a couple of 65-66 Mustangs someone mentioned the vin no. was on inside firewall behind the heater, but I can't confirm that. My titles and fender apron nos. were the same although one had a fender apron cut out with the correct no. welded in place.
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Gentlemen, there is an answer to hidden ID numbers. After some research I found that there is a manual (apparently annual) where all the locations are found. The manual is NATB (National Auto Theft Bureau) Vin Manual. The NATB became NCIB (National Insurance Crime Bureau). Thier manual is NCIB Vehicle Identification Manual. The NCIB is a non-profit funded by the insurance industry. Thier manual is widely distributed to law enforcement and others who have a need. Tomorrow I will call my Pemco agent.

For now the most common suggestion is that the number is located under the top lip of either fender stamped into the top of the inner fender.

Thanks to all. I shall advise. Ken
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