Thanks for the comeback Merlynr. Unfortunatly my books also show 289. The rub is that I took out the original 200 back in 79. Last week I removed a rubber deflector that was only used on the 6 cyl. models so my memory is not playing tricks on me. The ID number remains perplexing.
Both. The ID 6K29C 227778 appears on both the title and stamped in the top of the radiator support. The door plate is of no help because the door was changed. The original radiator support was changed sometime before 1979. Apparently the original number was cut out and tack welded over the junkyard number. Thats what makes me uncomfortable about the number. The State Dept. of Motor Vehicles responded this morning to a request for a full history search. Thier records only go back 5 years.
Is there another location on the rig where the numbers are reported to be hiding???
Hello again Bill, Yeah this ID number thing is a bit of a puzzle. But yes I am confident I took out the original engine (200 w/C4). As far as someone changing to a 200. It has been my experience that people who make engines swaps rarely if ever get every thing right.
I am also confident that it is a 29 series (Custom Ranchero) as the rig has numerous features matching the criteria. It also had the optional big rear springs, big brakes, and Ford 8" with 3.0 gears. But no limited slip.
I purchased this rig from owner number 2 whom was not mechanically inclined. He told me that owner No. 1 was an old man with bad eyesight and that the old guy had twice rear ended a school bus. As you know these rigs are subject to radiator support damage even on a low impact head on. With that in mind I suspect what has happened in this case is this,
In collision 1 the body shop changed the radiator support but did not cutout and retain the original ID number thereby displaying the replacement number 6K29C. For collison 2 the body shop again changes the support putting in a 1967 piece. However that shop did cut out and retained the previous number 6K29C and tack welded it over the 67 number as required by State rules. This what I think has happened. The State is unable to trace the title history as they can only go back 5 years. I have owned the rig for 31 years.
The only answer is to find the secret location of the orignal number which is always rumored to exsist.
Bill, Your number C6DZ-A adds yet another number to my library showing the evolution of the of this part. It proves that the original C6OZ-A has been superceded at least 3 times. One can hardly expect it to to be exactly the same at this point. There is on E-Bay right now a C7DZ-A brand new (NOS). Only a glance shows numerous differences including the spacing of the grill supports, that there are only 2 louvers instead of 3 in front of the battery tray, and that they are several critical holes missing or relocated elsewhere that accomodate the 66 wire harness. However many changes there may be it still serves the same function adequately.
My 5th grade school teacher once told our class that the original George Washington hatchet had 7 different handles and 3 different heads. Food for thought.
Somewhere when I had a couple of 65-66 Mustangs someone mentioned the vin no. was on inside firewall behind the heater, but I can't confirm that. My titles and fender apron nos. were the same although one had a fender apron cut out with the correct no. welded in place.
Gentlemen, there is an answer to hidden ID numbers. After some research I found that there is a manual (apparently annual) where all the locations are found. The manual is NATB (National Auto Theft Bureau) Vin Manual. The NATB became NCIB (National Insurance Crime Bureau). Thier manual is NCIB Vehicle Identification Manual. The NCIB is a non-profit funded by the insurance industry. Thier manual is widely distributed to law enforcement and others who have a need. Tomorrow I will call my Pemco agent.
For now the most common suggestion is that the number is located under the top lip of either fender stamped into the top of the inner fender.
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