Donor dilemma, not sure I can go through with this.
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Me? You shouldn't ask me anything? Because you know i really like those years mustangs.. I think they were sometimes cop cars out here in Calif--The CHP used them. I always wanted one, because they are such a good performer all the way around. I still remember the Consumer Report review when those cars were new. They didnt recommend that car. Why? Firstly it had toooo much power!!!! Ya. For real. And secondly there was no cup holder or other similar comforts. I'm not lieing either. That's when I realized my xwife must be doing their car reviews/didn't renew my sub. Clearly they had a different outlook!!!
I didn't have the money, but I wanted one. Never did get one of those 5.0 units but I had a 65 way back when. Course they were just different sheet metal on a Pinto or whatever. But still kinda cool, but by 1990 they were really something.
Its too nice? What if you were at a Mustang Forum instead of a F100?
What do you think they'd say?
You can always buy a drive train. I wouldn't cut up such a good runner.
But its up to you. I'm not gonna make it easy for you to do wrong though/you'll have to live with it forever. Just think about that. The story you can tell vintage mustang owners 20years from now!!! Oh ya. You better keep that a secret haha.
Goodluck
I didn't have the money, but I wanted one. Never did get one of those 5.0 units but I had a 65 way back when. Course they were just different sheet metal on a Pinto or whatever. But still kinda cool, but by 1990 they were really something.
Its too nice? What if you were at a Mustang Forum instead of a F100?
What do you think they'd say?
You can always buy a drive train. I wouldn't cut up such a good runner.
But its up to you. I'm not gonna make it easy for you to do wrong though/you'll have to live with it forever. Just think about that. The story you can tell vintage mustang owners 20years from now!!! Oh ya. You better keep that a secret haha.
Goodluck
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run the mustang .. I need body parts for my 54' .. you can blend in with the kid's at the car show.. an us old farts will show off our trucks..how much did you want for the parts truck??...it's gonna be to much work for you to hot rod the truck. and i would go with a 9 inch in the rear ..stronger when you pump up that 302..heck the rear in it is worth useing.. you don't wanna stand out from the crowd do you .. if you do ..kill the mustang ..
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Foxes: 1978/83 Fairmont/Zephyr / 1979/86 Mustang/Capri / 1980/83 Mark VI / 1980/88 Thunderbird/Cougar / 1981/82 Granada / 1982/87 Continental Sedan / 1983/86 LTD/Marquis / 1984/92 Mark VII / 1987/1993 Mustang.
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No 1971/80 Pinto (or Mercury Bobcat) uses a Fox body. The only Pinto related to a Mustang: 1974/78 Mustang II's are really nothing more than reskinned Pinto's.
Foxes: 1978/83 Fairmont/Zephyr / 1979/86 Mustang/Capri / 1980/83 Mark VI / 1980/88 Thunderbird/Cougar / 1981/82 Granada / 1982/87 Continental Sedan / 1983/86 LTD/Marquis / 1984/92 Mark VII / 1987/1993 Mustang.
Foxes: 1978/83 Fairmont/Zephyr / 1979/86 Mustang/Capri / 1980/83 Mark VI / 1980/88 Thunderbird/Cougar / 1981/82 Granada / 1982/87 Continental Sedan / 1983/86 LTD/Marquis / 1984/92 Mark VII / 1987/1993 Mustang.
I had a 65 when they were new, and I didn't think it handled all that special or anything/at least not stock. It looked cool and it was considered a real small American car at the time-considering. I mean they made that cool gt350 setup--if you were wealthy, but that wasn't available to me. It seems later that they started making all kinds of cool aftermarket add-ons available and even in stock form they apeared to handle great. Of course all those years are supported big time in the aftermarket today--including the 65. I don't recall any CHP police cruiser Mustangs from 1965 though haha. At least not anywhere I lived. I thought of my 65 as mostly cool, because that to me was about when Detroit started moving away from the "big iron". I guess they made a 64 1/2 too? Or something like that. I forget exactly. For a long time it seemed Detroit was making only "big" cars and American consumers were hungry for somthing smaller, but not necessarily econo.
I've always liked the Mustang group in general. If I didn't have so many trucks, I'd have one.
Goodluck
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I love Mustangs and that's a nice looking one at that, but... it has a known good engine and transmission. Also little bits HVAC, steering column, switches, fuel cut-off etc. might also be transferable. Why spend money on another drive-train of unknown functionality? After it's all over, sell the rest on Craig's list and get your $500.00 back.
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OK, let me get this straight. You wouldn't use this...
...because it's 'made for a pinto' even though it's designed and engineered for our applicaton, but you would advocate hacking and grafting together a sheetmetal unibody front structure removed from it's strength base to build half your truck's suspension? I must be missing something here.
...because it's 'made for a pinto' even though it's designed and engineered for our applicaton, but you would advocate hacking and grafting together a sheetmetal unibody front structure removed from it's strength base to build half your truck's suspension? I must be missing something here.
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The front end, with it's McPherson strut-style suspension would be difficult to fab in the truck. It would require building a NASCAR-style cage around the front end to attach the struts. Not very practical. If you like the way the Fox-Mustang drives, though, you really should consider a MII-based aftermarket front suspension over the Volare. It will make your drivetrain swap easier and will drive and handle more like the car you're used to.
Just my opinion -- The T5 in it is not a lot of use to you without a bunch of work to get the shifter to come up about a foot further forward. Are you going to keep the 5.0 EFI'd? If not, leave the Mustang be, sell it as it is, and use the money to buy a proper already-carb'd 302 and a truck tranny.
I do want to keep the EFI, just so much nicer than carb's especially with the bit of ethenol we have here they are putting in the gas. I'm tired of tearing down carbs to clean that crap out after they have sat for a little while. Plus my plan is twin turbos and I think it EFI and twins would be a nice combo
well i would take what you need off of the mustang. im using the rear axle out of a 88 its gear ratio is a 3.08 thought that was standard rear ratio with 5 speed. i went parallel 4 bar wish i would of used triangulated instead but cant keep changing things or will never get anywhere. those cars are fun to drive if you look at floor pan behind drivers seat prob cracked from drag racing if it was run hard.
all the drivetrain would work. I am using an 8.8 and triangulated..
I converted a 4 cyl 87 stang to 8cyl, AOD. pretty easy transplant.
that 5.0 was supposed to go in the green truck but ended up in the stang as my daughters first car.. (family ganged up on me to make it a V8 instead of a 4banger..)...
thats why I had to get the 460!!..
Sam
I converted a 4 cyl 87 stang to 8cyl, AOD. pretty easy transplant.
that 5.0 was supposed to go in the green truck but ended up in the stang as my daughters first car.. (family ganged up on me to make it a V8 instead of a 4banger..)...
thats why I had to get the 460!!..
Sam
I love Mustangs and that's a nice looking one at that, but... it has a known good engine and transmission. Also little bits HVAC, steering column, switches, fuel cut-off etc. might also be transferable. Why spend money on another drive-train of unknown functionality? After it's all over, sell the rest on Craig's list and get your $500.00 back.
Thanks for everyones input. I'm still not dead set on doing it and I've got time to think still. I think I'll do the frame shortening, volare clip install and go from there. The 1954 has a Mopar 8 3/4 with the 5 x4.5" bolt pattern, correct width so I might just use that. Thats an excellent rear end with lots of aftermarket support. Plus, like the 9" the removable 3rd member is nice.
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The design of this front end is a very good, and strong design. Just because it was used on pintos, bobcats, and that ugly 74 to 79 mustang doesn't mean it is weak in an way. It is very adaptable and suits almost any application. The design is carried on from and improved in the aftermarket. There are some aftermarket systems to avoid but there are also some very good aftermarket systems available. The original system used by Ford is a strong and functional system, easy to repair and there are lots of parts available for it. I often wonder, as others, why Ford chose this when it is obviously 'overkill' for the cars they used it in. I'm using the system in my Cobra replica with a 429 Cobrajet motor. I installed Ltd springs in it. After 10,000 miles I haven't had any problems. It is still as solid as when I built it.
.........mervy49
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