don't want commercial plates
#76
update to the story. just came back from dmv and registered my f-350 dually with cap having windows and camping equipment in the bed as a suburban vehicle and got passenger plates. no weight tickets, no pictures, just the statement as to the modifications to the registration class.
I do wonder about all the f-250's, 350's and equiv doge and chevy trucks with just the flat cap and they have passenger plates.
a flat cap with a window would work by definition. kinda like looking into a coffin.
I do wonder about all the f-250's, 350's and equiv doge and chevy trucks with just the flat cap and they have passenger plates.
a flat cap with a window would work by definition. kinda like looking into a coffin.
#77
After reading this thread, it just makes me love living in Wyo that much more
No Safety inspection (stopped doing them in the late '70's)
No Emissions testing
you get either a car or truck plate ( unless is a commercial vehicle)
Based on age of vehicle (until it is 20 yrs old then flat rate)
3% sales tax paid with first issue plates ( unless municipality has higher tax rate due to bonds etc.)(5% here due to a couple of bonds that the city passed)
Open OR concealed carry without a permit (unless you go out of state then concealed permit required) Plates for my truck will run about $700 since I just bought it
can drive ANYWHERE (unless private property and don't have owners permission)
and less than 500k people in the entire state.
No Safety inspection (stopped doing them in the late '70's)
No Emissions testing
you get either a car or truck plate ( unless is a commercial vehicle)
Based on age of vehicle (until it is 20 yrs old then flat rate)
3% sales tax paid with first issue plates ( unless municipality has higher tax rate due to bonds etc.)(5% here due to a couple of bonds that the city passed)
Open OR concealed carry without a permit (unless you go out of state then concealed permit required) Plates for my truck will run about $700 since I just bought it
can drive ANYWHERE (unless private property and don't have owners permission)
and less than 500k people in the entire state.
#78
After reading this thread, it just makes me love living in Wyo that much more
No Safety inspection (stopped doing them in the late '70's)
No Emissions testing
you get either a car or truck plate ( unless is a commercial vehicle)
Based on age of vehicle (until it is 20 yrs old then flat rate)
3% sales tax paid with first issue plates ( unless municipality has higher tax rate due to bonds etc.)(5% here due to a couple of bonds that the city passed)
Open OR concealed carry without a permit (unless you go out of state then concealed permit required) Plates for my truck will run about $700 since I just bought it
can drive ANYWHERE (unless private property and don't have owners permission)
and less than 500k people in the entire state.
No Safety inspection (stopped doing them in the late '70's)
No Emissions testing
you get either a car or truck plate ( unless is a commercial vehicle)
Based on age of vehicle (until it is 20 yrs old then flat rate)
3% sales tax paid with first issue plates ( unless municipality has higher tax rate due to bonds etc.)(5% here due to a couple of bonds that the city passed)
Open OR concealed carry without a permit (unless you go out of state then concealed permit required) Plates for my truck will run about $700 since I just bought it
can drive ANYWHERE (unless private property and don't have owners permission)
and less than 500k people in the entire state.
#79
#80
Question
In NYC you can't park anything with commercial plates on the street overnight in residential areas. They come around in the wee hours and paper the neighborhood with tickets.
Commercial plates on a pickup may not be much of an inconvience in other parts of the country but in NYC its a PITA. Can't park on the street overnight. Can't go on parkways that prohibit commercial traffic (lots of them) and the real killer - you pay MUCH higher tolls on thruways, bridges and tunnels.
Yes, you can go the whole camper shell, seats, etc. route or have a fifth wheel or a gooseneck ball (small hole in bed floor, removable ball) installed. If your truck is PERMANENTLY set up for towing a camper trailer you get passenger plates. An no, the hitch on the back doesn't count.
I've had passenger plates on my 05 F350 PSD since new and never had a problem.
Commercial plates on a pickup may not be much of an inconvience in other parts of the country but in NYC its a PITA. Can't park on the street overnight. Can't go on parkways that prohibit commercial traffic (lots of them) and the real killer - you pay MUCH higher tolls on thruways, bridges and tunnels.
Yes, you can go the whole camper shell, seats, etc. route or have a fifth wheel or a gooseneck ball (small hole in bed floor, removable ball) installed. If your truck is PERMANENTLY set up for towing a camper trailer you get passenger plates. An no, the hitch on the back doesn't count.
I've had passenger plates on my 05 F350 PSD since new and never had a problem.
Joe
#81
you are over for passenger plates.
you need to review the DMV rules for modifications to registration classes and see if you qualify....some folks use their trucks with a camper type shell on the bed which has windows, they install seats, beds, camping equipment, and are able to register suburban which will get you passenger plates.
keep in mind with out passenger plates you cant park in residential areas during non business hours and during business hours its like a 4 hour window. not even in your drive way. you cant use parkways with commercial plates.
also, per DMV rules...you are responsible for determining your registration class and per DMV rules DMV personnel will not participate in determining your registration class so don't bother bringing pictures of your modifications to be able to register suburban because DMV personnel do not want to see them....and they will not require photos.
if you later take off the camper top, and keep passenger plates, you could get a ticket for out of class registration.
you need to review the DMV rules for modifications to registration classes and see if you qualify....some folks use their trucks with a camper type shell on the bed which has windows, they install seats, beds, camping equipment, and are able to register suburban which will get you passenger plates.
keep in mind with out passenger plates you cant park in residential areas during non business hours and during business hours its like a 4 hour window. not even in your drive way. you cant use parkways with commercial plates.
also, per DMV rules...you are responsible for determining your registration class and per DMV rules DMV personnel will not participate in determining your registration class so don't bother bringing pictures of your modifications to be able to register suburban because DMV personnel do not want to see them....and they will not require photos.
if you later take off the camper top, and keep passenger plates, you could get a ticket for out of class registration.
#82
Wow! Talk about an old thread. I bought my 2005 F350 PSD new in 2005 and drove and parked it everywhere in NYC for 8 years with never a problem. It had only a tonneau cover and had passenger plates. I bought the truck in NJ and rather than let the dealer handle the registration, I went to an independent registration agent in NY. They can issue plates and print the registration while you wait. The guy behind the counter asked what kind of plates I wanted, I said passenger. I don't know if I was just lucky but I assume that the police just looked at the truck and decided they weren't going to second guess DMV.
#83
I had a few different things happen.
2005 f-250. Dealer calls and says DMV did not approve transferring my passenger plates to the truck....dealer said DMV said I had to do commercial plates. I filled out a new DMV form and gave it to the dealer ..the new form had my modifications to my registration class, dealer processed the new form and I got suburban plates which were passenger class.
2008 f-350 dealer wanted to get my plates for me...but they called me and said I could only get commercial plates per DMV. I explained the registration modifications I did and the dealer gave me all the paperwork to register myself. when I got to DMV, the counter person said I could not have passenger plates because my vehicle was too heavy. I asked the counter person to get a supervisor. Supervisor initially said the same thing, but then I explained the modifications to my registration class. supervisor left the counter and said she would be right back. when she returned, she told the counter person to issue me passenger plates and resister my truck as a suburban.
2010 f-450. told dealer I needed to complete my own DMV form due to changes in my registration class which I did. Dealer processed it and I got suburban plates (passenger)
2005 f-250. Dealer calls and says DMV did not approve transferring my passenger plates to the truck....dealer said DMV said I had to do commercial plates. I filled out a new DMV form and gave it to the dealer ..the new form had my modifications to my registration class, dealer processed the new form and I got suburban plates which were passenger class.
2008 f-350 dealer wanted to get my plates for me...but they called me and said I could only get commercial plates per DMV. I explained the registration modifications I did and the dealer gave me all the paperwork to register myself. when I got to DMV, the counter person said I could not have passenger plates because my vehicle was too heavy. I asked the counter person to get a supervisor. Supervisor initially said the same thing, but then I explained the modifications to my registration class. supervisor left the counter and said she would be right back. when she returned, she told the counter person to issue me passenger plates and resister my truck as a suburban.
2010 f-450. told dealer I needed to complete my own DMV form due to changes in my registration class which I did. Dealer processed it and I got suburban plates (passenger)
#85
#87
When I bought my 2001 F250 Superduty, I asked the dealership what I had to do to get passenger plates. They said "come back with a receipt for a deposit on a cap". So I did. And got passenger plates. No seats, no "camper", just the cap.
Never had an issue.
BTW, they go by the weight on the title. My F250 was 5600 pounds or so on the title, and the limit at the time was 5000 lbs I think. It's now up to 6000: https://dmv.ny.gov/registration/regi...-class-vehicle
Just an FYI.
Never had an issue.
BTW, they go by the weight on the title. My F250 was 5600 pounds or so on the title, and the limit at the time was 5000 lbs I think. It's now up to 6000: https://dmv.ny.gov/registration/regi...-class-vehicle
Just an FYI.
#88
#89
My neighbor got an out of class registration ticket for cap on an empty bed ( no seats, camping equipments, etc ).
so he thru a bench seat in the back
later he got another ticket of out of class registration becuase he had no seatbelts on the seat and the seat was not bolted down.
so he thru a bench seat in the back
later he got another ticket of out of class registration becuase he had no seatbelts on the seat and the seat was not bolted down.
#90
My neighbor got an out of class registration ticket for cap on an empty bed ( no seats, camping equipments, etc ).
so he thru a bench seat in the back
later he got another ticket of out of class registration becuase he had no seatbelts on the seat and the seat was not bolted down.
so he thru a bench seat in the back
later he got another ticket of out of class registration becuase he had no seatbelts on the seat and the seat was not bolted down.