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Old 04-28-2010, 12:58 AM
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352 V8 carburetors?

Ive got a 1966 F100, 2WD, automatic trans, 120,000 miles,352 V8, manual choke. my question is, "what carburetors (carb numbers prefferably) will fit my 352 with manual choke? ive got a few carb numbers here...

WO/Thermactor Autolite 4100 C6AF-L 2258

WO/Thermactor Autolite 4100 C6PF-H 2258

Holley 2300-C 3208 C5AA-A 1297

WHAT IS A THERMACTOR? and what carb is best to go with from these (if these fit)?

sorry for all the questions, im an 18 yr old newb!
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Thermactor was a smog system using an air pump mounted over the alternator. This isn't needed anyway for you. The Autolite 4100 carbs are both 4bbl. passenger carbs and your truck has the original 352? If so then you are in need of a Autolite 2100 2bbl. carb.

I have a 65 and my reference book say either a C5TF-9510-C or C5TZ-9510-N would work on an automatic 352-2V. A 65/66 Autolite 2100 for auto except T/E is C5TZ-9510-N.

I would look at my manual choke carb which I got off ebay 3 years ago after looking. It is correct for my truck (got lucky) but right now it is dark and I don't want to lift up the oil bath cleaner.
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Thermactor was a smog system using an air pump mounted over the alternator. This isn't needed anyway for you. The Autolite 4100 carbs are both 4bbl. passenger carbs and your truck has the original 352? If so then you are in need of a Autolite 2100 2bbl. carb.

I have a 65 and my reference book say either a C5TF-9510-C or C5TZ-9510-N would work on an automatic 352-2V. A 65/66 Autolite 2100 for auto except T/E is C5TZ-9510-N.

I would look at my manual choke carb which I got off ebay 3 years ago after looking. It is correct for my truck (got lucky) but right now it is dark and I don't want to lift up the oil bath cleaner.
I basically agree, but think most any 2100 manual choke that has 1.14 venturi's, pre 1970 would suit the purpose. Jetting would be 49 maybe 50.
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Thermactor was a smog system using an air pump mounted over the alternator. This isn't needed anyway for you. The Autolite 4100 carbs are both 4bbl. passenger carbs and your truck has the original 352? If so then you are in need of a Autolite 2100 2bbl. carb.

I have a 65 and my reference book say either a C5TF-9510-C or C5TZ-9510-N would work on an automatic 352-2V. A 65/66 Autolite 2100 for auto except T/E is C5TZ-9510-N.
Those 2V carb part numbers were replaced a century ago. I've searched for them (and others before), no one has any.

The newer number is: C9UZ9510AA (Motorcraft CA698) / Obsolete

Two Ford Dealers have ONE each / One obsolete parts vendor has EIGHT, two others have ONE each.

The Autolite/Motorcraft 2V carb is essentially the same as used on 1962/74 F100/350's and Passenger Cars.

Manual chokes were used on all 1962/66 F100/350's (some 1967/68's). The 1970/74 version has a choke pull-off diaphram mounted on the air horn.

The carb kit is the same for all of them: D4AZ9A586A [replaced C2AZ9A586B] (Motorcraft CT499D).

T/E = Thermactor Emission (smog pump) was first installed in F100's and Passenger Cars after 1/1/1966 in vehicles sold new in CA.

1965/66 F100/350 352 MX C-O-M carb jets: 51F = 0-5,000 ft // 49F = 5,000-10,000 ft // 47F = 10,000-15,000 ft.
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Thanks for the correction on the jets.
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Those 2V carb part numbers were replaced a century ago. I've searched for them (and others before), no one has any.
Which is why I said I found mine on ebay where, if the tag is present, you can get the info from the seller. There out there it simply takes time to find one with a manual choke. I have many a 2100 on my shelf already rebuilt but all have the standard thermal choke system. Spares for the other cars, besides the 4300 and a few 4100s, and incredibly the right codes for the respective cars.
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I have an extra rebuilt C5TF B, manual choke 1.14 venturi. Yes they are around. Last year I ran a similar 2100 on my 292 .060 over, and it was VERY quick. Liked it!

This season, with gas prices going up, a 1.08 2100 with all choke mech. removed is in place. Put in 49 jets and the spark plugs look scarry perfect.
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thanks for your prompt reply guys, i hate to ask but could i get some more carb numbers that would work for my truck? ive gone to NAPA and kragens (only parts places in 100 mile radius) and they both said to go find another number rather than the C5TF-9510-C or C5TZ-9510-N. getting frustrated, been searching for a week and a half... I WANNA DRIVE MY TRUCK! btw, i dont have the carb number from the OEM carb... no carb on the truck when i bought it!
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Those 2V carb part numbers were replaced a century ago. I've searched for them (and others before), no one has any.

The newer number is: C9UZ9510AA (Motorcraft CA698) / Obsolete
PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has ONE = 888-727-0418.

KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has ONE = 800-816-2894.

BOB ALLEN FORD in Overland Park KS has ONE = 800-676-0675.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has ONE - 704-786-8139.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has EIGHT = 800-543-4959.
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Found a carb I plan to sell

I just registered in this group to see if the original poster is still looking for a carb, We bought a bunch of stuff in an estate sale and have what appears to be a new carb and new radiator. I will probably go and post in the classifieds section if I can but anyway, the carb is in a Motorcraft box and shrink wrapped to the cardboard. The box is Motorcraft and, the ship date was 3/22/83 and the box says:

CA-698ZE 26
C9UZ-9510-AA

On the tag on the carb it says

D4PE JA
AZE 26

If anyone in this tread is interested in it, I can send pictures (or maybe post if I can figure out how to do that and if I can with the free account). I am in the Dallas tx area.

Thanks for reading and hope didn't post anything inappropriate here.
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I found this thread particularly interesting. The other day I went into Schuck's and asked for an air filter for a 66 F100. The guys punched it up, and said he'd have to order it, but it would still only be 10 bucks. Then he clicked a little more, and said, "Actually, I'm sorry. We don't even have that in our warehouse. We'd have to special order it for an additional 8 bucks." I figured I'd try Napa, but I walked away confused since it just looked like a regular Fram type air filter.

Then it hit me today. This isn't the original air filter. It's an aftermarket job, that's in a tin pan that someone just sat on top of the carb. I'm not sure of the exact specs of the carb, but I think it's factory. I can post pics I took of it with my cell phone today (it's real pretty!). But anyhow, I was talking to my workbench mate at work and reminded me that these original trucks had the old oil bath system with that Thermactor thing you guys are talking about. I see the hose coming out of the rear top passenger side of my engine where it blows out unused fumes that used to go back into the oil bath. Right now that's just kind of pointed down towards the ground so if anything does blow out, it just vents toward the ground.

I would like to get rid of the aftermarket air filter housing someone put on and get an original piece. So my question is -- is this recommended? Are there disadvantages to going back to an oil bath setup above my carb? Or is it recommended? Should I get one of those Thermactor deals? If I should get one, do you guys know where I could get just the oil bath part?

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oil bath air cleaner

I thought '65 was the last year for the oil bath air cleaner.
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Why in the heck would anyone want an oil bath aircleaner? They are messy and bulky. Have you ever delt with one?
Other than originality the only advantage to an oil bath is that in a very dusty enviorment it will not clog up and starve the engine of air. Thats it.

NorCalFord, if you are still in need of a carb you can buy a holley 2300 model off of ebay or craigslist for about $50. A 350 CFM piece would work great on a 352. Cost you about another $50 to rebuild it and probobly about $20 to tune it in. Most of them had manual chokes that I have seen and if its an electric choke model Holley sells a $20 kit to retrofit it to a manual.

The 2100 is a great carb and if originality is important get it. If not I think the holley would probobly yeild you a cheeper route with beter parts availability.
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i am needing a carb for an upcoming trip and i saw that you had several rebuilt 2100 carbs. would you be interested in selling one of them. if so, please email me at austint@canvascapital.com. thank you much, troy


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Which is why I said I found mine on ebay where, if the tag is present, you can get the info from the seller. There out there it simply takes time to find one with a manual choke. I have many a 2100 on my shelf already rebuilt but all have the standard thermal choke system. Spares for the other cars, besides the 4300 and a few 4100s, and incredibly the right codes for the respective cars.
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I thought '65 was the last year for the oil bath air cleaner.
Oil bath air cleaners were standard equipment thru 1967, optional thru 1979.

1965/67 F100/350 352's were also available (as an option) with a dry type air cleaner. It's the exact same one as used on 1963/64 Galaxie 292/352/390's.

C3AZ9601B .. Air Cleaner Element (Motorcraft FA6) / 9.78" O.D / 7.28" I.D. / 2.53" high / Obsolete

Fits: 1965/67 F100/350 352 / 1963/64 Galaxie 292/352/390.

PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has TWO = 888-727-0418.

KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has TWO = 800-816-2894.

MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has TWO = 800-546-7278.

JST AUTOMOTIVE in Lebanon TN has SEVEN = 615-443-3086.

GREEN SALES CO. inb Cincinnati OH has FOURTEEN = 800-543-4959.
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Why would anyone want an oil bath air cleaner? They are messy and bulky. Have you ever dealt with one?
You bet, for longer than you've been alive 'n kickin!

Why would you want an oil bath air cleaner you ask?

Because kiddo, they do a far better job of filtering the air than any paper filter, and you don't need to ever buy a paper filter that may be difficult to find.

All you have to do is clean it out once in a while, then add a pint of oil.
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