V10 vs psd

[dkf]

Originally Posted by Crazy001 You got me thinking about MPGs, too. I don't drive my new -250 much at the moment, but with 1,300 on the odometer I've seen two tanks over 15 MPGs. Obviously this includes quite a bit of highway cruising, but even so I've been led to believe this is more than a V10 would get. What do you V10 guys see for MPGs? The exact same truck you have but with the V10/4.10s I'd say 11-12mpg under the same conditions. Depends how much highway.

[Crazy001]

Yeah, that's kind of what I figured.

To be honest, when I went to the dealer that day, I had decided I did NOT want a diesel! They're expensive to buy, maintain, and the MPG gains aren't as large as they once were. Heck, for that matter, I wasn't even ready to buy a truck that day, I was just looking!

Then he showed it to me, with $12K off sticker...and it followed me home!

To be honest, I've been pleasantly surprised with it. I love the way it drives, has waaay more torque and power than my 5.4 I had in my F150. I think I'd enjoy the V10 as much, but had this truck had the V10 it likely wouldn't have been on the lot as long, and I wouldn't have gotten the deal I did on it.

For my use, I really don't need the diesel, as I only tow heavy a couple times a year. But, with the deal I got, the extra MPGs, and the added resale value, I'm very happy with it!

[7.3 Rocket]

You can eliminate a lot of the drag a 7.3 has by adding a simple chip. 500 bucks and it'll take off QUICK.

[mongo75]

Hell I didn't even pay $500 for my DP tuner! And here's another plus for diesels- they don't call them "oil burners" for nothing. In a pinch, I can drive on tranny fluid, vegetable oil, motor oil, brake fluid, just about any type of oil. Granted it may not be the best for the not so much the engine, as the fuel lines, but in a WWIII type scenario, I will be driving my family past a lot of dried up V-10's, with my MRE's, guns, and ammo LOL

[DieselBeast01]

I got know problem with the V10 motors. I think they are a great motor, but they do not compare to diesel. Yeah your V10 might be fast, and yeah it might tow pretty good, but like somebody said earlier, whatever it can do, the diesel can and will do better. Now i don't know so much about the newer diesels, I drive a 7.3, so everything said above was in comparison to my truck.

[Crazy001]

Originally Posted by DieselBeast01

whatever it can do, the diesel can and will do better.

For the $6,000 it costs over the V10...IT HAD BETTER DO EVERYTHING BETTER!

I think the V10 is a better deal, though...$6K less, more power, less MPGs, less maintenance....

[Deluxe05]

The whole reason that the Powerstoke vs. V10 debate will NEVER come to a definitive answer/winner is because they are too equally matched. Where one side has a slight advantage, the other side can always counter with a different advantage.

This is the same type of circular argument as the one waged between the Bow Tie, Mopar, and us Blue Oval fans in regards to motors, cars, and trucks.










Although, we all know that the Blue Oval reigns supreme!!

[bill11012]

Originally Posted by Crazy001

You got me thinking about MPGs, too.

I don't drive my new -250 much at the moment, but with 1,300 on the odometer I've seen two tanks over 15 MPGs. Obviously this includes quite a bit of highway cruising, but even so I've been led to believe this is more than a V10 would get.

What do you V10 guys see for MPGs?

from 9.5 speeding( 90+ mph) with a load to 13.5 running 60 with a load.
from 12 city to 15 highway empty.
about what you 6.4 guys get, give or take.

[whattatruck250]

WGAS??? Its just a matter of personal preference.I love my V10.Good for me.You who have diesels,love them.Good for you.

[79 F.-.R.D.]

ive never been able to afford a brand new off the lot vehical. if you look around in my area youll find used 7.3's with 80-100k for 8-15k depending on condition and mods so ive never had the 6k extra from the dealer that we all know is crap. and 10-12 mpg's stock is unaceptable, I got my 7.3 stock 15-17 then i added 3 mods and 18-22. but with my experience with 7.3's the mileage gets better as the miles add up. not so with the v-10. so off the lot the v-10 is cheaper with comparable stats but not in the long run for me.

[WhëëlMå1]

Originally Posted by Deluxe05

Although, we all know that the Blue Oval reigns supreme!!

and that is really ALL we need to know!

[WhëëlMå1]

Oh and for the person who asked.... 08 V10 4.30s Auto. I get 12-13 mixed, with 275 BFGs. I was getting about the same with the stock rubber bands.

[bill11012]

Originally Posted by whattatruck250

WGAS???.

yes, why?
is that really that great?

[Ballswedge]

Originally Posted by Ford79

Hey Danny, I brought the popcorn, you get the chairs. LOL

Originally Posted by mongo75

Sounds like a plan Mike!

Whose bringing the lube?

LMFAO. You guys aren't "funny haha", you're funny..... You know the rest.

Originally Posted by Bear 1

Real Trucks don't have spark plugs!!

Real trucks also have GVWRs in excess of 25k, have stacks for a purpose, displace over 8 liters, and usually have 10+ wheels.

You have a pickup truck, just so happens it's diesel fueled as are many other things such as generators, sunflower heaters, tractors, economy cars and even some riding lawn mowers. I don't claim my kubota diesel powered cub cadet riding lawn mower to be a REAL tractor, as you shouldn't claim to have a REAL truck just because of its fuel.

Originally Posted by 7.3 Rocket

1: You NEVER have to change the spark plugs in a PSD.

2: PSDs don't eject parts like some V10s did previously.

And PSDs will get a load rolling faster than a gas engine will due to the larger torque numbers.

1. You ALWAYS have to change filters every 10-15k that cost more than all 10 of my plugs combined that I have to change every 100k.

2. Yes, lets talk about the "ejecting" of parts. Or even the "blowing" or "leaking" or how about even the "complete catastrophic failure" of some parts....(that last one should be a Registered Trademark of the Ford Motor Company when used in reference to the "powerstroke diesel") Don't go there, you diesel guys have much more to keep up on than us gassers do, such as EGR coolers, head gaskets and variable vane turbo failures. Two of those little examples cost more to repair on your diesels than the replacement of a complete 2v v10 engine.

If you would take a moment to go over to www.pickuptrucks.com and read the HD shootout test you'll see that yes, the diesel did start with a higher starting speed up a 15% grade with 10k behind it, But after a bit the diesel planed off and was stuck at one speed, the v10 was gaining spped at that point.

Originally Posted by DieselBeast01

I got know problem with the V10 motors. I think they are a great motor, but they do not compare to diesel. Yeah your V10 might be fast, and yeah it might tow pretty good, but like somebody said earlier, whatever it can do, the diesel can and will do better. Now i don't know so much about the newer diesels, I drive a 7.3, so everything said above was in comparison to my truck.

And I quote;

"Ford's F-250 and F-350 finally developed some unique performance patterns, even though they are using the same 5-speed TorqueShift transmission. But look at how well the V10 was running at the 250-meter finish line versus the V8 Power Stroke. Again the gasser was traveling faster than the compression ignition motor. The F-350's speedo barely inched up from 100-m to 250-m, while the F-250 gained over 6-mph."

This was going up a 15% grade with a 10k load.

I see PSD trucks on flatbed trailers DAILY. My v10 truck has never seen so much as a repair facility ever. Heck, I've only seen like 8 other V10 trucks period. PSDs are like a**holes, everyone has one.

HEY! I know another couple of things that diesels can do better than gas engines, and we wouldn't want to forget these;

1. leave you stranded often.

2. cost you 2-5 times more to repair and service.

3. get you real friendly with wrecker drivers and service representatives at dealers.

LOL, it's all in fun right?

BTW: the truck in my sig gets 10-13 mpg.

[Pinky Demon]

^^^

Uber beatdown.