Installed ARP Studs Without Pulling Motor, Lifting Cab or Removing HVAC Box
#92
The reason for cleaning out the treads is to make sure the stud seat all the way down and should be done with a bottoming out tap. I have heard of people not cleaning out the holes and when they go tho torque down the heads they can not reach proper torque due to the fact the stud will turn down deeper if not seated all the way.
I don't know about the 6.0 block, but I have seen other engines become damaged because main cap or cylinder head studs bottoming out in the threaded hole and pushed excessively on the bottom of the threaded hole which cracked the block!
BarnieTrk
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#95
Sorry it took me so long to respond but my leak is at the rear of the right side head gasket between the block and head and coolant running down the back of the engine. Other than losing coolant very slowly the truck runs great. Will be doing the gaskets and studs along with the Bulletproof oil cooler shortly as my shoulder is almost healed enough to tackle this project. Tried the coolant test strips and the test fluid stays blue. Once I get the turbo and the rest of the EGR related goodies off the top of the engine maybe I'll find it's not the head gasket but it sure looks that way using mirrors etc. There is a little moisture around the egr cooler but nothing like at the back of the head unless it's pooling somewhere I can't see before leaking down the back of the engine.
#96
DSMMH,
This thread relly gives food for thought. Head gaskets still holding up after 25K great news. Shows it can be done. I'm doing mine as soon as my shoulder heals but gotta change the head gasket because I have a leak to atmosphere at the back passenger side. Otherwise I'd do your way along with the Bulletproof remote oil cooler and EGR work, Cudo's to you for trying it and succeeding.
Cheers!
This thread relly gives food for thought. Head gaskets still holding up after 25K great news. Shows it can be done. I'm doing mine as soon as my shoulder heals but gotta change the head gasket because I have a leak to atmosphere at the back passenger side. Otherwise I'd do your way along with the Bulletproof remote oil cooler and EGR work, Cudo's to you for trying it and succeeding.
Cheers!
Mr. Sandman,
Sorry it took me so long to respond but my leak is at the rear of the right side head gasket between the block and head and coolant running down the back of the engine. Other than losing coolant very slowly the truck runs great. Will be doing the gaskets and studs along with the Bulletproof oil cooler shortly as my shoulder is almost healed enough to tackle this project. Tried the coolant test strips and the test fluid stays blue. Once I get the turbo and the rest of the EGR related goodies off the top of the engine maybe I'll find it's not the head gasket but it sure looks that way using mirrors etc. There is a little moisture around the egr cooler but nothing like at the back of the head unless it's pooling somewhere I can't see before leaking down the back of the engine.
Sorry it took me so long to respond but my leak is at the rear of the right side head gasket between the block and head and coolant running down the back of the engine. Other than losing coolant very slowly the truck runs great. Will be doing the gaskets and studs along with the Bulletproof oil cooler shortly as my shoulder is almost healed enough to tackle this project. Tried the coolant test strips and the test fluid stays blue. Once I get the turbo and the rest of the EGR related goodies off the top of the engine maybe I'll find it's not the head gasket but it sure looks that way using mirrors etc. There is a little moisture around the egr cooler but nothing like at the back of the head unless it's pooling somewhere I can't see before leaking down the back of the engine.
#97
Thanks, I've got my fingers crossed hoping that's exactly what it is or the seal around the welded EGR. Used mirrors and climbed right in as far as I could trying to see. Made an adapter to pressurize the system to 16psi to see if I could make it leak. Even blew air with an air gun under the egr cooler to see if I could blow coolant which may be pooling out. It's still wettest at the rear of the head. I do have the new blue hose and hope it's from there where I can't see. I have the Bulletproof oil cooler, ARP studs and OEM gaskets and will be putting that in so I do have to tear everything down anyways.
#98
If you still have the orange hose, put in the blue one and see what happens before you tear it down. Unless you just want to do the heads and studs regardless for peace of mind.
#99
Wait, are you saying the blue hose is already installed? Or you have it on hand ready to install?
If you still have the orange hose, put in the blue one and see what happens before you tear it down. Unless you just want to do the heads and studs regardless for peace of mind.
If you still have the orange hose, put in the blue one and see what happens before you tear it down. Unless you just want to do the heads and studs regardless for peace of mind.
#100
Hey DSMMH was wondering would you be so kind to give us a current update? I am toying with the ARP head install as I just brought the truck used and the heads have been of just recently before I took ownership of the truck.They replaced the ford bolts with new bolts and not ARP's (dang).My truck is not spitting coolant nor leaking around the head. This leads me to say "she's a good candate for stud swap". Drop us a line Thanks!
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#102
Great Post
Great post DSMMH!!
I would have an X myself but they seem to be hard to come by, atleast a good one anyway!! Got an 05 F-350 instead! Gonna use your technique to change my headstuds, probably change the Hg's at that time, high mileage truck!
I know I'm new to this engine and forum, but SNORINDAD, it is not advisable to use a bottoming tap unless you are cutting new threads, because that is exactly what inexperienced hands can do! Thread chaser or tap only if you know what you are doing! I've had far too many guys under me destroy the threads they were trying to save because they didn't know how easy it is to damage dirty threads!
Once again, GREAT post DSMMH, no offense to your age, but I hope I can still tackle a massive project like that when I'm age!! Great job thinking outside the box!!
RangerV8
I would have an X myself but they seem to be hard to come by, atleast a good one anyway!! Got an 05 F-350 instead! Gonna use your technique to change my headstuds, probably change the Hg's at that time, high mileage truck!
I know I'm new to this engine and forum, but SNORINDAD, it is not advisable to use a bottoming tap unless you are cutting new threads, because that is exactly what inexperienced hands can do! Thread chaser or tap only if you know what you are doing! I've had far too many guys under me destroy the threads they were trying to save because they didn't know how easy it is to damage dirty threads!
Once again, GREAT post DSMMH, no offense to your age, but I hope I can still tackle a massive project like that when I'm age!! Great job thinking outside the box!!
RangerV8
#103
RangerV8, Your statement is true but I still believe you need to clean the threads out and my dad was a tool and die man and I learned a lot from him as far as using taps dies and precision measuring tools. So I have a little more experience than most. I have a friend on my street who did not chase his threads on a jag motor and could never get the proper torque because the studs turned instead of the nuts. So he had to pull the heads back off and chase the threads.
#105
Head studs without pulling heads!
So I realize that this is an old post but I do have some interest in its age as it should by now have some results from those who have changed to ARP studs one at a time and leaving heads installed. I know there are those who just say no, but proof is in the results of those who took the chance and tried and won or failed. Here is my reason for more input, I have an acquaintance that did this after Ford replaced the heads, gaskets and cooler as they would not install the studs (not sure why if he offered to pay) but he took it to his shop and pulled out bolts and put studs in. (deleted the egr) This by his account has been 5 years now and no issues despite the fact he has this thing chipped and drives like he stole the truck.
Curious if this is typical of those who did the exchange or simply luck?
Curious if this is typical of those who did the exchange or simply luck?