New Banks 6.4L Tuner!
#16
03-24-2009, 04:33 PM
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But what makes you think that banks won't leave a footprint? Even with a simple fueling box on the 6.0's a ford tech could detect it if he looked deep enough and thats with the older electronics that weren't designed with a specific goal to detect if they had been tampered with.
Yes, i bet if a ford tech/engineer looked deep enough in the computer for any signs of tampering then they would find both the spatan/sct tuners and this new devise from Banks.
So yes, the key is about the warranty, as in wether or not you are willing to risk it and pay the price if you get caught. And your taking the same risk with any tuner, and in some cases even just an intake. So why not get the best product for your money if your already taking that risk?
#17
03-24-2009, 06:39 PM
I have no knowledge that it will or will not leave a foot print. The point I was trying to make is that SCT and Spartan offer better products in my opinion so the only advantage Banks would have is IF it doesnt leave a foot print, thus voiding the warranty. If they all leave a footprint then Banks doesnt have any competitive advantage. Just my 2 cents from what I have read. I dont have a tuner so I cant speak from experience.
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03-24-2009, 10:06 PM
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I talked to Banks about the footprint. The banks unit is NOT a tuner, it does not flash or reprogram the ECM in any way. Once it is removed, there is no trace of it in the computer at all.
Also, as far as quality of product goes, this is interesting. http://assets.bankspower.com/prod_in...eanTune_ad.jpg
#19
03-25-2009, 12:33 PM
cut and paste-08 6.4 workshop manual master dtc list
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle>P167F</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Non-OEM Calibration Detected</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle>TCM</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>REFER to Section 307-01 (diesel engine only).</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
The dtc exists, its there if we want to go after it. Does your tuner leave a footprint? How much is your warranty worth?
The dtc exists, its there if we want to go after it. Does your tuner leave a footprint? How much is your warranty worth?
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03-25-2009, 08:02 PM
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Can't wait to get mine installed as well. I'll report back as well on MPG and how it runs.
I leased this truck, but I am taking care of it like I own it as I will probably buy it at the end. Unless they have something just unbelievably better out....
However it would be nice to get this one paid for and not have a payment for a while.
I leased this truck, but I am taking care of it like I own it as I will probably buy it at the end. Unless they have something just unbelievably better out....
However it would be nice to get this one paid for and not have a payment for a while.
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I had a Banks setup on my old 2002 and ran around on stage 4 all the time, never had a bit of problems. The new setup for the 6.4 they are coming out with (if I understood the guy I talked to correctly) reduces power during shifts but cleans up the shifts a lot compared to stock.
Plus, as many familiar with Banks will tell you, they will not release a product until it is fully tested, so I am not worried a bit about using it. It has been beta tested on a fleet of trucks for over a year.
Plus, as many familiar with Banks will tell you, they will not release a product until it is fully tested, so I am not worried a bit about using it. It has been beta tested on a fleet of trucks for over a year.