Pics of 4.4L F150
#32
that is a 6 cyl engine towing around aro 6000 lbs of brick. i think that mileage is pretty decent. yes it will be strangled by emissions just like the current engine. guys i know get 20-22 in their 7.3 cargo vans regulary. best mileage for my 4.6 was 18 occasionally and more like 15. not much of a difference.
my tdi jetta gets 35 city and 40-42 hwy. the like gasser would get 22 city 27 hwy. in a smaller package the percent you expect is available.
Side-by-Side Comparison
unfortunately heavier trucks and diesels ae not tested. wish they did.
my tdi jetta gets 35 city and 40-42 hwy. the like gasser would get 22 city 27 hwy. in a smaller package the percent you expect is available.
Side-by-Side Comparison
unfortunately heavier trucks and diesels ae not tested. wish they did.
#33
#37
So I still do not see what your point is.
#38
What kind of engine do you have in mind that would have a 4.72" Stroke, Cummins 5.9?...You realize that that would be a ridiculously huge engine for a half ton? If you want to play that game, the Ford Cologne 4.0 V6 has a 3.32" stroke, another 1.5" of deck height on either side to bring it up to 4.8" stroke isn't going to make it that much bigger at all - and it still be a hell of a lot more compact then a Cummins 5.9.
So I still do not see what your point is.
So I still do not see what your point is.
Ford should design a good solid inline 6 diesel of their own, that's at least as good as the Cummins, if not better,(I know Ford could do it) and use this SAME engine in ALL their full size trucks.
#39
You are also forgetting V6s have a 60* V (atleast non-hacked properly designed ones). So even if the deck height was that high, it would STILL be narrow then a 460, shorter then an I6, and not as long as either one of them. The 5.4 Modular engine is just as wide - if not a bit more then a 460. So the narrower theoretical 5.9 V6 would have no problem fitting in. Modern 60* V6s with split crank pins/flying arms are plenty smooth, even 90* V6s are now acceptably smooth. What this all matter anyways? We are talking about a 4.4L engine, not a 5.9L. There is really no point to a straight 6 anymore, unless you are a smoothness freak (in which case you should just get a V12), or you like looking at tall, straight engines.
As far using the same diesel engine in all their trucks - not even Dodge is doing that. They are going to be sticking a 5.6L V8 Cummins in the 1500s, and potentially a smaller V6 Cummins in the Dakotas.
As far using the same diesel engine in all their trucks - not even Dodge is doing that. They are going to be sticking a 5.6L V8 Cummins in the 1500s, and potentially a smaller V6 Cummins in the Dakotas.
#40
You are also forgetting V6s have a 60* V (atleast non-hacked properly designed ones). So even if the deck height was that high, it would STILL be narrow then a 460, shorter then an I6, and not as long as either one of them. The 5.4 Modular engine is just as wide - if not a bit more then a 460. So the narrower theoretical 5.9 V6 would have no problem fitting in. Modern 60* V6s with split crank pins/flying arms are plenty smooth, even 90* V6s are now acceptably smooth. What this all matter anyways? We are talking about a 4.4L engine, not a 5.9L. There is really no point to a straight 6 anymore, unless you are a smoothness freak (in which case you should just get a V12), or you like looking at tall, straight engines.
As far using the same diesel engine in all their trucks - not even Dodge is doing that. They are going to be sticking a 5.6L V8 Cummins in the 1500s, and potentially a smaller V6 Cummins in the Dakotas.
As far using the same diesel engine in all their trucks - not even Dodge is doing that. They are going to be sticking a 5.6L V8 Cummins in the 1500s, and potentially a smaller V6 Cummins in the Dakotas.
#41
As far as power, you have to consider that todays diesels can wring A LOT of power out of not to many cubes. I've heard of anywhere between 250-300hp and 400-450 ft-lbs for the 4.4. That should be enough to haul around an F-150.
Unfortunately the electronic crap is something we all have to live with now, but on a plus side, it has had years to develop and mature, starting with the first electronically fuel injected gas engines
Unfortunately the electronic crap is something we all have to live with now, but on a plus side, it has had years to develop and mature, starting with the first electronically fuel injected gas engines
#42
#43
The copywriter for the mag sure isn't much of a truck person, to wit::::
To be built in Mexico, the 4.4-liter V-8 will be offered in production F-150s by late 2009, and by 2011 it is expected to be the base diesel engine in Ford's Super Duty pickups.
According to this "person", we ain't gonna be pulling 15k lb trailers with a 4.4 in a Super Duty.
To be built in Mexico, the 4.4-liter V-8 will be offered in production F-150s by late 2009, and by 2011 it is expected to be the base diesel engine in Ford's Super Duty pickups.
According to this "person", we ain't gonna be pulling 15k lb trailers with a 4.4 in a Super Duty.
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