How are they thieves? Isn't price always based on what people are willing to pay for a certain service or product? Why should somebody sell a product for less than people are willing to pay? You are not forced to purchase anything from a dealership. Capitalism is a wonderful thing my friend.

 

On the QuadCab 1500 truck, if you got the gas deal, you only get $3000 cash back.
$8000 cash back without the gas deal. That's the way to go.

 

I bet I could walk in and get 10k-12k off a cummins tomorrow in 15 minutes flat. I got those guys number.
I have a feeling they would tell you to stuff it on the cummins and would happily sell you the jeep. The demographic that buys dodge cummins will pay more with less incentives. Meaning they rarely offer deals on this truck.
So many cars are belt driven. I loved my full interference belt driven subaru and yes I had to change the belt at 120k miles. The belts are getting better but I remember changing timing belts on cars for some time now. Some of which were on fords. Its not something new.
Password is Saturn.
The 36k bumper to bumper isnt the only warranty. There is also a very inclusive emmisions warranty. You would be surprised how much the emissions warranty covers and how often your service advisor doesnt tell you.
This guy knows whats up. Just remember there are 1000 more of the model you want in that color that you like. When you put it in perspective its very easy to get a great deal on a vehicle because there are many more that would die to make the sale to you. I let em know up front if we wind up even 500 dollars apart Im gonna walk. Go in knowing full well what your willing to pay with your own financing from your bank or credit union and dont budge. Its not hard at all.

Auto Sales is a setup from the moment you walk in. They want you to get caught up in the moment and there is a lot of psychology behind it. If you let your emotions make your decision, i.e. you are excited to get a new vehicle, then you need to seriously consider getting a broker of some sort. They charge a small fee and can get you the car you want for the real sticker price. I believe its called a green sheet. I havent tried but walk into a dealer and ask for a green sheet on the car your interested in and see if they provide one or if you get a dumb look. If it is in fact a green sheet then you will have a very valuable bargaining tool in your hands.

The people that took the time to do the math on the gas card arent who they were aiming the promotion at. They were aiming at people who dont think too hard about big decisions like this. People dont usually take the time to research and think a purchase like this thru. Lots of folks treat car purchases as an impulse buy.

 

I have a broker. It's called a wife. She is a hard nosed negotiator and will either get the deal she wants or she walks. No emotions at all.

They will deal if they want to sell a vehicle.

 

Can I borrow your wife when I buy a new truck when the Explorer dies?