What is the 330 HD?

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Old 10-26-2013, 02:31 AM
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330 hd rear main seal?

Hey Guys i am new to this forum but need some help. just bought a 73 f600 dump truck with 330 hd 2 speed rear end. I drove it 160 miles home. Truck drove amazing till the next morning i went to start it and noticed it was pouring oil between the block and trans. I'm pretty sure it is the rear main seal. how hard is this to replace and any other suggestions? thanks for all the help, stroker93.
 
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Originally Posted by 1968grain600deere
When I was younger my dad bought a 79 uhaul that someone put an extended dump bed on. The first thing we did was pull that 330 and drop a fresh rebuilt 460 out of a lincoln mark III in it. That old girl would haul whatever you put behind it or in the bed. He still runs it to this day on the farm. We learned quick with that truck everything was different when getting parts for it. Thanks for bringing back up the good memories of this fun uhaul!

This post is getting very close to the whole 330XD rationale. The motor is everything a pulling motor should not be, except nearly indestructable. The stroke is way too short, the displacement is way to small, the load behind it was usually way too big. But with the governor, it could nearly never be ruined by idiot rental drivers. There was another bigger reason for the oddball XD in the UHauls.

Theft. Early on UHaul found out that some sleazy people would rent a truck for the weekend, pull the motor out of the truck and put in a worn out motor, then bring the truck back with the worn out engine. Sounds screwy, but some people will do anything to save a few bucks... used car dealers, organized crime mobs, chiseling weekend mechanics, etc.

So UHaul specified an engine for their trucks that was undesirable to begin with, easily identified if stolen, hard for anybody else to get parts for, and ran like a pig for every application. UHaul, unlike GM-product utilizing EZHaul, never had much of a theft problem. The EZHaul saga is a story for another day, involving the mob, extortion, threats, and a long weekend of organized engine theft and swaps. A real B-school case study. U-Haul finally bought them out, IIRC.
 
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Manifold

Originally Posted by redscreamer97
hey guys i am a 16 year old boy that is amazed with these truck like this and i just got handed down my grandpaws tow truck/ex-uHaul truck back when he was in the wrecker service. anyway i have done some seroius work to this truck and this fourm taught me a lot thank you! but i do have one question! Why does my F350 custom have circular headlights instead of the square ones i see on every other truck? if you could answer this you guys would be helping me out a lot! I know it has the 330 HD 4spd (with extra low 1st) and i also need a passenger side manifold and i cant find one that is the same look as the stock one? Can you guys help me out with that as well? thank you for your help!
Hey, it's possible I have a manifold that your looking for. It came of of what I believe to be a 391 out of a 1975 terrigator, which is a large fertilizer spreading machine here in the Midwest.. I put this engine in my 75 highboy I'm building and the manifold dumped right on top of the motor mount. I had to put the stock 360 manifold on which I hated bc the 391 was a center collector which seems like it would breathe better and run cooler. It has two extra extra exhaust passages between # 2 and 3 cylinders, if that helps id it for you.
 
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Originally Posted by JohnsonHardwood
Hey, it's possible I have a manifold that your looking for. It came of of what I believe to be a 391 out of a 1975 terrigator, which is a large fertilizer spreading machine here in the Midwest.. I put this engine in my 75 highboy I'm building and the manifold dumped right on top of the motor mount. I had to put the stock 360 manifold on which I hated bc the 391 was a center collector which seems like it would breathe better and run cooler. It has two extra extra exhaust passages between # 2 and 3 cylinders, if that helps id it for you.
You've been bitten by that old threadbug……….. you're about 7 years late on your answer.
 
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:44 AM
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You've been bitten by that old threadbug……….. you're about 7 years late on your answer.
Yes, but it was interesting reading!
 
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So I'm gonna rehash this whole deal...
I'm getting ready to reassemble my FT for my 65 f600.
It's an oil bath air cleaner former 330hd.

What color would this old 330 have been paid yes when new? I'm not going for some show quality restore but if im doing it I would like to do it correctly.

Any help would be great.
 
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:20 PM
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Don't know about the 65 models but my friends dad had a 68 and 69 F-600, their engines were Ford blue
 
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Blue for all engines started in '66. In '65, car and light trucks had a black block and the valve covers and sometimes air cleaner were different colors depending on the size of the engine. My '65 Mustang had gold covers and air cleaner for example.

Not sure if this was a thing in the medium trucks.

Paint the whole thing gray like the later reman'd engines.
 
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:24 PM
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Thinking back after doing a search. We had a wrecked C600 on the farm, one of my dad's $500 trucks that he never got around to. IIRC, Blue valve covers, black air cleaner, probably black block. He fired it up after it sat for 20 years or so, purred like a kitten.

Numberdummy might come by, not sure he has the color decoder ring for FT motors.
 
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Old 10-11-2019, 02:05 AM
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All 1960/65 FoMoCo engines were painted black. The valve covers were painted specific colors, because this is how FoMoCo identified engine sizes for garages/body shops.

But, this was a confusing mish-mash, because cars used the same valve cover colors as trucks, but for different engines.

1965 example: Black engine, gold valve covers = 289 2V Ford Passenger Cars, 1965 F100/350 352. (sigh)

Beginning in 1966, all FoMoCo engines, including the valve covers, were painted Ford Corporate Blue.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
All 1960/65 FoMoCo engines were painted black. The valve covers were painted specific colors, because this is how FoMoCo identified engine sizes for garages/body shops.

But, this was a confusing mish-mash, because cars used the same valve cover colors as trucks, but for different engines.

1965 example: Black engine, gold valve covers = 289 2V Ford Passenger Cars, 1965 F100/350 352. (sigh)

Beginning in 1966, all FoMoCo engines, including the valve covers, were painted Ford Corporate Blue.
My valve covers were an orange like color. I can surmise the black . I know I'm being dumb but if im building the engine and painting it, may as well be correct. It was a 330 and I believe HD as the crankshaft is a forged unit. I guess I should check engine code to confirm or deny that as fact.
The engine has been apart before so who knows if that orange was a left over can laying around or was original.
Thank you both for your time!!
I'll drag my ol' thread back up when I get the engine up on the stand.
 
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:29 PM
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The orange could have originally been Ford's "Vermillion".

So many "reds", so few labeled "Vermillion".

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Engine code is the 4th digit of the VIN .. 1964/65: A = 330 2V Medium Duty // M = 330 2V Heavy Duty // K = 361 2V // 9 = 391 4V

1966/78 FT's use different VIN engine codes.
 


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