1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Im at a crossroads need advise...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #31  
Old 12-22-2007, 04:56 PM
havi's Avatar
havi
havi is offline
I'll have the Roast Duck
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Northshore, MN
Posts: 9,600
Received 45 Likes on 28 Posts
Originally Posted by tip49
Glad you listened to your truck and are staying with the original six for now. If mine had come with original motor it would have been no contest for me. Hey you can always change it out later.


Tom
ditto here
 
  #32  
Old 12-22-2007, 06:00 PM
jake08's Avatar
jake08
jake08 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Cypress,Ca.
Posts: 807
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Greetings All; Well, headers were delivered for my 223ci. today. Soon she will be making very mellow sounds. Santa came a little early.
 
  #33  
Old 12-22-2007, 06:00 PM
pcmenten's Avatar
pcmenten
pcmenten is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If the subject is still open for discussion. I started out rebuilding my 223, but now I'm on the track of a 292. I like the idea of a 223. It's a dare-to-be-different thing, but the potential is rather limited.

When I got the truck, I was thinking in terms of a 302. The little Windsor is lighter than a 292, but the design of the truck doesn't work with a side mount engine like a 302. The 292 and 223 have engine mounts that hang from the bellhousing. It's a design that allows the torque of the engine to be transmitted into the firewall. The front frame on our old F100's is designed to flex, much like the Model A. The front engine mount is centered under the front of the engine. It allows the frame to twist without twisting the engine.

You might want to go onto youtube and listen to some of the y-block (292) V8s there. The sound is different than most V8s. It's because of the firing order.

Where I live, running 292's come up for sale several times a year. If you can get one in your area that's coming out of a truck, you can get most of the accessories that fit it to a truck; timing cover, bellhousing, exhaust manifolds. Since your truck is already an automatic, you'll want to find a automatic bellhousing for a y-block in a truck. They're out there, but they're not common.

If you decide to stick with the 223, I'd recommend getting a RollMaster timing chain and degreeing the cam. Other than that, there's not much I'd do with a 223. The head bolts are 1/2" and won't take a lot of compression.
 
  #34  
Old 12-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Brian_B's Avatar
Brian_B
Brian_B is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,958
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Glad to see somone staying with the original drivetrain. Mine has a 272 Y-block (original) and is not fast. It is, however, the most fun to drive vehicle I have ever owned. It gets as much attention at the cruise in than the high dollar "show type" cars.

The engine gets the most attention of all though. Most people have no clue what it is.

It is reliable and starts every time. Even after sitting for a few weeks. I drive it 55-60 on the highways. It might run faster, but I don't have a tach and don't want to over-rev the engine by accident.

As far as sound...mine is almost silent. Just the way I like it!!!!

People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
 

Last edited by Brian_B; 12-22-2007 at 06:38 PM.
  #35  
Old 12-23-2007, 12:00 AM
55 Ford-O-Matic's Avatar
55 Ford-O-Matic
55 Ford-O-Matic is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Guys if I do the 302 what do I have to do about motor mounts? Thanks
 
  #36  
Old 12-23-2007, 12:15 AM
wmjoe1953's Avatar
wmjoe1953
wmjoe1953 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Go to any one of the resto catalogs, and order a set for your truck. They are readily available, and affordable through just about any one.
 
  #37  
Old 12-23-2007, 01:10 AM
Snowking's Avatar
Snowking
Snowking is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Colonsay Sk. Canada
Posts: 8,422
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Purrs like a kitten or roars like a Tom cat it's your decision.

Here is a clip from the 292 I had rebuilt for my 1957 see if this turns your crank, sure got me excitied
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mO21C9HzHyg
or how about my Smokey Flathead
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0xXk4aNTKRY&feature=user

Obviously I like them loud and hope you stick with the 223, My dad has one in a 57 Fairlane and it'll do 80. Also got another one running strong in a unibody.
 

Last edited by Snowking; 12-23-2007 at 01:21 AM.
  #38  
Old 12-23-2007, 08:52 AM
Dadsf-21952's Avatar
Dadsf-21952
Dadsf-21952 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a 52 f-2 with the orrigianal 215 overhead 6, you want to talk gutless. But I'm doing it for my dad and he wants orrigianal which is cool its going to be his island cruiser. as of now we completely tore down machined out and rebuilt the motor so to be honest I don't know what it is actually rated at now. I know it isn't the old 101 hp from factory, but it isn't a racer eather. Just good old American power and fun. merry x-mas
 
  #39  
Old 12-24-2007, 05:43 AM
52'F-3's Avatar
52'F-3
52'F-3 is offline
More Turbo

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: south-central PA
Posts: 670
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by tip49
Glad you listened to your truck and are staying with the original six for now. If mine had come with original motor it would have been no contest for me. Hey you can always change it out later. Tom
i decided to pull out the original V-8(and tranny) from my '52, but i'm keeping it for that same reason...... i figure i can rebuild it and re-install if i ever want.

Originally Posted by Brian_B
As far as sound...mine is almost silent. Just the way I like it!!!!
People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
i also want mine quiet. i like that the 300-6 i've swapped into mine is hard to tell if it's even running, while looking at it. smooth and quiet is what i'm going for on my truck also.............
 
  #40  
Old 12-24-2007, 05:26 PM
pcmenten's Avatar
pcmenten
pcmenten is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have you ever heard a Harley? Of course you have. I'll bet you could identify a Harley just by its sound. It's the same thing with a y-block. To make things even more interesting, y-blocks usually have cams with 108 degree LSA. It's a tough sound.
 
  #41  
Old 12-25-2007, 12:47 PM
kooper909's Avatar
kooper909
kooper909 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pcmenten
Have you ever heard a Harley? Of course you have. I'll bet you could identify a Harley just by its sound. It's the same thing with a y-block.
Amen. Ever since my Y-block swap I haven't looked back. Great motor.

That valley cover is lookin' real nice on it.
 
  #42  
Old 12-25-2007, 01:11 PM
pcmenten's Avatar
pcmenten
pcmenten is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Koop, was that you that I traded valley covers with? How's the weather in update NY
 
  #43  
Old 12-25-2007, 04:15 PM
kooper909's Avatar
kooper909
kooper909 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pcmenten
Koop, was that you that I traded valley covers with? How's the weather in update NY
No snow and cloudy skies ... the usual Christmas weather. Are you having a white Christmas out west?
 
  #44  
Old 12-25-2007, 05:07 PM
pcmenten's Avatar
pcmenten
pcmenten is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, this has been one of the nicer Christmas days we have had in years. Cold and clear, with a trace of snow on the ground.

I heard that you guys were getting a lot of snow. I have some family in Connecticut just north of NYC.
 
  #45  
Old 12-25-2007, 08:12 PM
55 Ford-O-Matic's Avatar
55 Ford-O-Matic
55 Ford-O-Matic is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You guys are probably going to kill me but my father gave me a 305 and tranny for my truck. I know its a chevy motor but its not going to be perminant. I cant pass it up. All I have to do is install it and go. Tranny is newly rebuilt with 0 miles. So for now thats what im doing. I hope everyone had a great christmas.
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:56 AM.