Im at a crossroads need advise...
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If the subject is still open for discussion. I started out rebuilding my 223, but now I'm on the track of a 292. I like the idea of a 223. It's a dare-to-be-different thing, but the potential is rather limited.
When I got the truck, I was thinking in terms of a 302. The little Windsor is lighter than a 292, but the design of the truck doesn't work with a side mount engine like a 302. The 292 and 223 have engine mounts that hang from the bellhousing. It's a design that allows the torque of the engine to be transmitted into the firewall. The front frame on our old F100's is designed to flex, much like the Model A. The front engine mount is centered under the front of the engine. It allows the frame to twist without twisting the engine.
You might want to go onto youtube and listen to some of the y-block (292) V8s there. The sound is different than most V8s. It's because of the firing order.
Where I live, running 292's come up for sale several times a year. If you can get one in your area that's coming out of a truck, you can get most of the accessories that fit it to a truck; timing cover, bellhousing, exhaust manifolds. Since your truck is already an automatic, you'll want to find a automatic bellhousing for a y-block in a truck. They're out there, but they're not common.
If you decide to stick with the 223, I'd recommend getting a RollMaster timing chain and degreeing the cam. Other than that, there's not much I'd do with a 223. The head bolts are 1/2" and won't take a lot of compression.
When I got the truck, I was thinking in terms of a 302. The little Windsor is lighter than a 292, but the design of the truck doesn't work with a side mount engine like a 302. The 292 and 223 have engine mounts that hang from the bellhousing. It's a design that allows the torque of the engine to be transmitted into the firewall. The front frame on our old F100's is designed to flex, much like the Model A. The front engine mount is centered under the front of the engine. It allows the frame to twist without twisting the engine.
You might want to go onto youtube and listen to some of the y-block (292) V8s there. The sound is different than most V8s. It's because of the firing order.
Where I live, running 292's come up for sale several times a year. If you can get one in your area that's coming out of a truck, you can get most of the accessories that fit it to a truck; timing cover, bellhousing, exhaust manifolds. Since your truck is already an automatic, you'll want to find a automatic bellhousing for a y-block in a truck. They're out there, but they're not common.
If you decide to stick with the 223, I'd recommend getting a RollMaster timing chain and degreeing the cam. Other than that, there's not much I'd do with a 223. The head bolts are 1/2" and won't take a lot of compression.
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Glad to see somone staying with the original drivetrain. Mine has a 272 Y-block (original) and is not fast. It is, however, the most fun to drive vehicle I have ever owned. It gets as much attention at the cruise in than the high dollar "show type" cars.
The engine gets the most attention of all though. Most people have no clue what it is.
It is reliable and starts every time. Even after sitting for a few weeks. I drive it 55-60 on the highways. It might run faster, but I don't have a tach and don't want to over-rev the engine by accident.
As far as sound...mine is almost silent. Just the way I like it!!!!
People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
The engine gets the most attention of all though. Most people have no clue what it is.
It is reliable and starts every time. Even after sitting for a few weeks. I drive it 55-60 on the highways. It might run faster, but I don't have a tach and don't want to over-rev the engine by accident.
As far as sound...mine is almost silent. Just the way I like it!!!!
People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
Last edited by Brian_B; 12-22-2007 at 06:38 PM.
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Purrs like a kitten or roars like a Tom cat it's your decision.
Here is a clip from the 292 I had rebuilt for my 1957 see if this turns your crank, sure got me excitied
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mO21C9HzHyg
or how about my Smokey Flathead
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0xXk4aNTKRY&feature=user
Obviously I like them loud and hope you stick with the 223, My dad has one in a 57 Fairlane and it'll do 80. Also got another one running strong in a unibody.
Here is a clip from the 292 I had rebuilt for my 1957 see if this turns your crank, sure got me excitied
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mO21C9HzHyg
or how about my Smokey Flathead
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0xXk4aNTKRY&feature=user
Obviously I like them loud and hope you stick with the 223, My dad has one in a 57 Fairlane and it'll do 80. Also got another one running strong in a unibody.
Last edited by Snowking; 12-23-2007 at 01:21 AM.
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I have a 52 f-2 with the orrigianal 215 overhead 6, you want to talk gutless. But I'm doing it for my dad and he wants orrigianal which is cool its going to be his island cruiser. as of now we completely tore down machined out and rebuilt the motor so to be honest I don't know what it is actually rated at now. I know it isn't the old 101 hp from factory, but it isn't a racer eather. Just good old American power and fun. merry x-mas
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Originally Posted by tip49
Glad you listened to your truck and are staying with the original six for now. If mine had come with original motor it would have been no contest for me. Hey you can always change it out later. Tom
Originally Posted by Brian_B
As far as sound...mine is almost silent. Just the way I like it!!!!
People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
People standing next to it have no idea it is running most of the time.
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You guys are probably going to kill me but my father gave me a 305 and tranny for my truck. I know its a chevy motor but its not going to be perminant. I cant pass it up. All I have to do is install it and go. Tranny is newly rebuilt with 0 miles. So for now thats what im doing. I hope everyone had a great christmas.