Don't get too mad at me but...
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#19
Having owned several Dodge products, I can honestly say that the Ford will hold up better. Take a look at any construction site. You see a bunch of Fords, a few Chevy's and a few Dodges..and those with Dodges get dropped off or bum a ride to work often becuse their truck is in the shop. Great motor, but you cannot trust the transmission at all. I learnt the hard way.
#20
Maybe if I could have a Ford body, Cummins engine, and Allison tranny.
Dodge trucks are cheaper in quality and don't appear to be as nicely laid out as fords or chevys. If you are in for the long haul, get a truck that is comfortable to be in for long periods of time. That could be the dodge truck depending on what you like. I find chevy interiors really uncomfortable. The seats make my back hurt in no time at all. I don't have this problem in dodges or fords. This is just me.
The dodge trucks don't hold up that bad. They do have a few issues depending on the year just like any make does. Some people seem to be under the impression that the wheels will fall off and the doors always sag. That really isn't the case. Although the body panels on the dodges is thin and flimsy, I have seen many less late model dodges rust out than fords. Even my truck has a rust spot on it and it is in nearly immaculate condition.
If I was going to haul really heavy loads or hauling in hilly terrain and didn't want to take the time/money to swap a cummins in a ford, I would simply buy a manual dodge. There is no question about it. A manual dodge will hold up for quite a long time. Especially if you want a 4x4 dually, I would definitely get a dodge. It is hard as hell to find an OBS in that combination around here.
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[QUOTE=79F150EFI]Perfect combination.
Although the body panels on the dodges is thin and flimsy, I have seen many less late model dodges rust out than fords. Even my truck has a rust spot on it and it is in nearly immaculate condition.
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huh? my '95 has NO rust on it at all , except some on the undercarriage, but that comes with any truck. one of my buddy's had a '95 dodge with rust all over the poor thing and the driver's door would only shut if he reached out and grabbed the outside hande, pulled it up and slammed the door. (it got a little messed up from an accident though). it's all in how the truck was taken care of. oh yeah, and the region the truck has been in. if it's been around the salt and stuff up north, then yeah, it will rust. but down here, the trucks don't rust as easily. find one in good shape and taken care of well and you got it made in the shade
Although the body panels on the dodges is thin and flimsy, I have seen many less late model dodges rust out than fords. Even my truck has a rust spot on it and it is in nearly immaculate condition.
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huh? my '95 has NO rust on it at all , except some on the undercarriage, but that comes with any truck. one of my buddy's had a '95 dodge with rust all over the poor thing and the driver's door would only shut if he reached out and grabbed the outside hande, pulled it up and slammed the door. (it got a little messed up from an accident though). it's all in how the truck was taken care of. oh yeah, and the region the truck has been in. if it's been around the salt and stuff up north, then yeah, it will rust. but down here, the trucks don't rust as easily. find one in good shape and taken care of well and you got it made in the shade
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#24
Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
one of the guys in the central texas turbo diesel chapter (aka... cummins diesel club) went to the diesel nationals this weekend to pull and today when he pulled, he broke his rear axle. so in other words, while the engine may stay together, the cab, suspension, and every thing else will fall down around it.
On the topic of the thread, I say stay with the Ford. I've seen the best and worst of both. I just like the Fords better.
#25
Originally Posted by RubberDuck
On the topic of the thread, I say stay with the Ford. I've seen the best and worst of both. I just like the Fords better.
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Last edited by fishmanndotcom; 10-15-2007 at 06:57 AM.
#26
Originally Posted by RubberDuck
Travis, you say that like his truck is junk. You know as well as I do that truck is one bad mother. Now I'm not trying to defend Dodges, but the only reason he broke is probably my fault. True, Jared is not a D.R. guy but he helps us out all the time, you just may not know it. He asked me to build bars for him but there was no way I could do it before the nationals. I truely believe that if I had gotten them built, he wouldn't have bounced trying to pull a 40k pound sled. With any luck, I'll have them built soon and he won't have that happen again. I know you weren't gettin' down on him, but I would at least say cut him a little slack.
On the topic of the thread, I say stay with the Ford. I've seen the best and worst of both. I just like the Fords better.
On the topic of the thread, I say stay with the Ford. I've seen the best and worst of both. I just like the Fords better.
#27
Honestly at the truck pulls here in michigan, the FORD PSD's dominate the cummings trucks.
If you read diesel power, they posted the Fummins in there, and its a sweet truck at 1000 HP. But its still a ford drive train, and a strait 6 Cummings.
The cummings is a great motor, and has been around for a long time. But so is the detroit diesel, so why are none putting them in their trucks?
This months issues of Diesel Power has the break down of the cummings, and its a great engine. Just. well. Dodge parts are really expensive. And I don't care much for the dodge interrior either compared to the OBS ford's.
The guy i know with an 88 Dodge cummings with a 5 speed has replaced the seats due to the stock seats rideing so poorly. He now has semi air ride seats in there.
The older style dodges also have their stearing box on the outside of the frame, where salt and other things can easily destroy it. I'm not sure about the new ones.
And who the hell wants to reach to the passenger side to shift to 4wheel drive?
If you read diesel power, they posted the Fummins in there, and its a sweet truck at 1000 HP. But its still a ford drive train, and a strait 6 Cummings.
The cummings is a great motor, and has been around for a long time. But so is the detroit diesel, so why are none putting them in their trucks?
This months issues of Diesel Power has the break down of the cummings, and its a great engine. Just. well. Dodge parts are really expensive. And I don't care much for the dodge interrior either compared to the OBS ford's.
The guy i know with an 88 Dodge cummings with a 5 speed has replaced the seats due to the stock seats rideing so poorly. He now has semi air ride seats in there.
The older style dodges also have their stearing box on the outside of the frame, where salt and other things can easily destroy it. I'm not sure about the new ones.
And who the hell wants to reach to the passenger side to shift to 4wheel drive?
#28
Originally Posted by Talyn
Honestly at the truck pulls here in michigan, the FORD PSD's dominate the cummings trucks.
I still like PSD's and love to work on them but I am also realistic. By the time next year comes around there is no way a PSD would come close to what I will be putting out with my 5.9.
#29
Originally Posted by tndiesel
I've been doing a lot of reading/research on 1 ton trucks because I'm considering doing some part time hauling. I'm actually having thoughts of selling my 7.3 and getting a Cummins. Talk me out of it, tell me why I should not do this.
Just kidding, when I was going to buy my truck, first I saw a Dodge, same year but at the end comparing several things, I bought the PSD, and I love her.
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