Marmon Herrington 1979 F350
#31
#34
#35
That front axle is a Dana 70 that is specially modified by Marmon Herrington with their wheel end hubs, hence the model # MD 70 (marmon dana 70). The transfer case is a NP205 that again is modified by MH and uses their custom crossmember(s) to mount it in the Ford. The truck goes down the line with certain DSO features, but has it's factory front axle and driveline when it leaves Ford. Then it's shipped to an MH upfitter, like Manning Equipment in Louisville,KY where the Ford front axle is removed and the MH four wheel drive equipment is installed, including front springs and steering linkage. Since this is an MH designed "kit", installed by an authorized MH dealer, it's every bit as good as a Ford assembly line vehicle would be. Most times the MH's were much better (Dana 70 front axle which Ford never offered in an F350). MH has been building AWD trucks since 1931 and converting Fords since 1936, without voiding the warranty on Ford supplied components on the truck. They are still very much in business today, although they don't really do these light duty trucks anymore. The smallest now would have their 8,000# capacity front axle and would go on a Class 6 truck (over 20,000# GVWR). My company has dozens of MH AWD's although they're primarily heavy duty Class 8 Freightliners (over 33,000# GVWR). Great company still building great trucks.
#37
Yes, riser blocks of that height are typical for this size axle, and even up to 21,000# capacity rear axles as long as the driveline torque isn't excessive. The gasoline engines and automatic transmissions and the non-air brake foundation brakes permit these risers. Much cheaper, faster, lighter and easier than the complete new subframe that's required with diesels and greater weights with more aggressive brakes. I've had much bigger trucks (F600's and 750's) than that F350, equipped with risers and never had a problem in even very tough service; snow plowing and salt/sand spreading.
Finding parts can be difficult, but many of the bearings, bushings, tie rod ends and the like are standard pieces. You can't go to Ford, but with the old component and the supplier number (say Timkin XXXX) I've found that you can still keep them running. MH themselves can also be of help in steering someone in the proper aftermarket supplier direction, for parts that they no longer handle.
Finding parts can be difficult, but many of the bearings, bushings, tie rod ends and the like are standard pieces. You can't go to Ford, but with the old component and the supplier number (say Timkin XXXX) I've found that you can still keep them running. MH themselves can also be of help in steering someone in the proper aftermarket supplier direction, for parts that they no longer handle.
#38
marmon
Originally Posted by Marmon
That front axle is a Dana 70 that is specially modified by Marmon Herrington with their wheel end hubs, hence the model # MD 70 (marmon dana 70). The transfer case is a NP205 that again is modified by MH and uses their custom crossmember(s) to mount it in the Ford. The truck goes down the line with certain DSO features, but has it's factory front axle and driveline when it leaves Ford. Then it's shipped to an MH upfitter, like Manning Equipment in Louisville,KY where the Ford front axle is removed and the MH four wheel drive equipment is installed, including front springs and steering linkage. Since this is an MH designed "kit", installed by an authorized MH dealer, it's every bit as good as a Ford assembly line vehicle would be. Most times the MH's were much better (Dana 70 front axle which Ford never offered in an F350). MH has been building AWD trucks since 1931 and converting Fords since 1936, without voiding the warranty on Ford supplied components on the truck. They are still very much in business today, although they don't really do these light duty trucks anymore. The smallest now would have their 8,000# capacity front axle and would go on a Class 6 truck (over 20,000# GVWR). My company has dozens of MH AWD's although they're primarily heavy duty Class 8 Freightliners (over 33,000# GVWR). Great company still building great trucks.
#39
One of the utility companies that I build maps for is Qwest Communications and they have a lot of mid 90s F-Super Duty trucks that have AWD conversions. They all have axles that look normal for Ford and no riser blocks on the front, but they do have some serious front springs that make it ride about 6" taller than a regular F-Super Duty. All of their new trucks are F450/F550s and have a similar lift.
#40
Originally Posted by Matts72
One of the utility companies that I build maps for is Qwest Communications and they have a lot of mid 90s F-Super Duty trucks that have AWD conversions. They all have axles that look normal for Ford and no riser blocks on the front, but they do have some serious front springs that make it ride about 6" taller than a regular F-Super Duty. All of their new trucks are F450/F550s and have a similar lift.
#41
tomarow ill go out to the barn with a drop light and grab numbers, ive been busy as he11 trying to get my derby truck done. ran it took 8th or so...i was pulling with dads dodge with that goose neck exploded the driveshaft and rear pinion in the pits some how...... anyways, glad i can still find some parts if needed just hope i dont need anything out of the ordinaly, i mainly shop at napa and they can look up the parts better than anyone i know anywhere. i hope all ill need is front brakes and possibly later down the road nothing to major like hubs, gears, or alxes. glad the blocks wont effect this any, i highly doubt ill be raceing it or doing to much hill climbing, but then again it is allways possible lol
#43
Theres a guy in Hamden,CT who deals with Marmon-Herington conversions a lot.He does mostly 48-56,but gets involved with Ford Trucks up to '79.He knows his stuff.
chuckstrucksllc.com
I also had a 78 F-350 4x4 conversion,but it was done by 4xFord.It was a rescue truck,460,auto,rust-free,with 40k original garaged miles.I wish I kept it.Take a look.
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1804imgxp6.jpg
chuckstrucksllc.com
I also had a 78 F-350 4x4 conversion,but it was done by 4xFord.It was a rescue truck,460,auto,rust-free,with 40k original garaged miles.I wish I kept it.Take a look.
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1804imgxp6.jpg
#44
[QUOTE=351coupe]Theres a guy in Hamden,CT who deals with Marmon-Herington conversions a lot.He does mostly 48-56,but gets involved with Ford Trucks up to '79.He knows his stuff.
chuckstrucksllc.com
I also had a 78 F-350 4x4 conversion,but it was done by 4xFord.It was a rescue truck,460,auto,rust-free,with 40k original garaged miles.I wish I kept it.Take a look.
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1181804imgxp6.jpg
Hey 351coupe Was it you that posted a thread on that truck a few years ago that you just posted a pic of.I see you decided to buy it.How did it turn out for you.What did you end up doing with it (take the body off...... What made ya sell it.Regards
chuckstrucksllc.com
I also had a 78 F-350 4x4 conversion,but it was done by 4xFord.It was a rescue truck,460,auto,rust-free,with 40k original garaged miles.I wish I kept it.Take a look.
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1181804imgxp6.jpg
Hey 351coupe Was it you that posted a thread on that truck a few years ago that you just posted a pic of.I see you decided to buy it.How did it turn out for you.What did you end up doing with it (take the body off...... What made ya sell it.Regards
#45
I bought it,and had a few ideas...remove the box and put a bed on,but nothing lined up just right and I didnt want to hack it.I just didnt have the time to do it right.
I thought it would be cool to have a 4x4 f-350 dually w/a factory 460,a/c,buckets,and super low miles.But,Someone offered me quite a bit more than I paid for it,so I sold it.I gotta take a ride by,and see if the guy ever did anything with it.
I thought it would be cool to have a 4x4 f-350 dually w/a factory 460,a/c,buckets,and super low miles.But,Someone offered me quite a bit more than I paid for it,so I sold it.I gotta take a ride by,and see if the guy ever did anything with it.