2008 f250 sc Broke down 3rd time
#46
05-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by mizzitch
Investing the money, even conservatively, that would have be spent on the diesel option would more than make up for any difference in trade in value.
Face it on a cost basis the gassers win unless you are towing heavy tons of miles per year. You ever wonder why the utility companies use F-250 through F-550 V10's? It's b/c their financial analysis of the two options tells them to.
Half the diesel owners would have a lower cost of owning and operating if they would've bought the V10 b/c they drive too few of miles hauling heavy. I guess they may not know what to do with all the time on their hands if they weren't bringing their diesel to the shop or picking it up or waiting for it...
Face it on a cost basis the gassers win unless you are towing heavy tons of miles per year. You ever wonder why the utility companies use F-250 through F-550 V10's? It's b/c their financial analysis of the two options tells them to.
Half the diesel owners would have a lower cost of owning and operating if they would've bought the V10 b/c they drive too few of miles hauling heavy. I guess they may not know what to do with all the time on their hands if they weren't bringing their diesel to the shop or picking it up or waiting for it...
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#47
05-25-2007, 05:59 PM
I would have to agree that if you are not doing a lot of towing or hauling, don't waste the money on the diesel. And that opinion has nothing to do with the reliability of either motor. The V-10 is a great motor and a $600 option. Anybody that looks at these trucks in any configuration as a money making or saving investment is going to be disappointed. Very very few vehicles appreciate in value and that is usually only after many years have passed.
#48
05-25-2007, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=mizzitch]
You ever wonder why the utility companies use F-250 through F-550 V10's? It's b/c their financial analysis of the two options tells them to.
I see you live in MN. Ever think that the reason your utility co's use gassers is for cold starting? Cause most of the more southern (midwest included) utility co's use diesels. None of the trucks, we use on the crews where I work, are gassers.
You ever wonder why the utility companies use F-250 through F-550 V10's? It's b/c their financial analysis of the two options tells them to.
I see you live in MN. Ever think that the reason your utility co's use gassers is for cold starting? Cause most of the more southern (midwest included) utility co's use diesels. None of the trucks, we use on the crews where I work, are gassers.
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#49
05-25-2007, 07:37 PM
Yes, starting is another reason, but I was recently in Omaha and I saw a couple V10's there???
January and February are the only two months were a diesel could really give you trouble up here. Tons of personal use SD's are diesel here, it's harder to find a personal use V10 than a commercial one.
As a side note - while doing some landscaping today I noticed a 6.0 450 with a van body on it being towed by a old school F-Super Duty - that kinda says something when the NA 7.3 or 6.9L at least 10 year older tow truck is still out hauling ****.
Once the 6.0's are all off warrenty who is going to pay to keep them running?
January and February are the only two months were a diesel could really give you trouble up here. Tons of personal use SD's are diesel here, it's harder to find a personal use V10 than a commercial one.
As a side note - while doing some landscaping today I noticed a 6.0 450 with a van body on it being towed by a old school F-Super Duty - that kinda says something when the NA 7.3 or 6.9L at least 10 year older tow truck is still out hauling ****.
Once the 6.0's are all off warrenty who is going to pay to keep them running?
#50
05-25-2007, 09:52 PM
#51
05-26-2007, 01:23 AM
Originally Posted by mizzitch
Yes, you may want to wear good walking shoes while driving a diesel built by navistar and tweeked by ford in since the 6.0, b/c you never will know when it will leave you stranded.
BTW, 66stang351, the 08's do not make good canidates for billet grilles, since the grille is already way out of proportion to the truck. I guess ford had to add more cooling capacity after tuning for 2007 emissions stds. They brag about adding cooling capacity as it is something that makes the trucks stronger than previous versions! - or it just makes them more prone to radiator/condenser damage.
BTW, 66stang351, the 08's do not make good canidates for billet grilles, since the grille is already way out of proportion to the truck. I guess ford had to add more cooling capacity after tuning for 2007 emissions stds. They brag about adding cooling capacity as it is something that makes the trucks stronger than previous versions! - or it just makes them more prone to radiator/condenser damage.
#52
05-26-2007, 09:54 AM
Originally Posted by origcharger
"Once the 6.0's are all off warrenty who is going to pay to keep them running?"
I suppose the owners?
Hey, is there some secret deal where the owners of V10s don't have to pay to keep them running when they are off warranty??
I suppose the owners?
Hey, is there some secret deal where the owners of V10s don't have to pay to keep them running when they are off warranty??
No, but they don't have egr, turbo, head gasket, injector, or glow plug problems.
Enjoy your diesel!
#53
05-26-2007, 10:17 AM
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#55
05-27-2007, 12:03 AM
unless you have your head in the sand, you should know there are 6.0 engines giving ford a warranty bath. and in many cases ford didnt step up to the plate and take care of the problems. which is why guys like me no longer trust ford, and will not be buying ford diesels, still the best truck but the 6.4 is not proven and will only be in the sd for 2 years just long enough for the techs to figure out how to work on them and then ford will let you be there beta tester again. most who need to be able to depend on there trucks for work are switching to the v10 or another brand,just cant count on ford diesels.
#56
05-27-2007, 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by tn mac
unless you have your head in the sand, you should know there are 6.0 engines giving ford a warranty bath. and in many cases ford didnt step up to the plate and take care of the problems. which is why guys like me no longer trust ford, and will not be buying ford diesels, still the best truck but the 6.4 is not proven and will only be in the sd for 2 years just long enough for the techs to figure out how to work on them and then ford will let you be there beta tester again. most who need to be able to depend on there trucks for work are switching to the v10 or another brand,just cant count on ford diesels.
Heres another example of something I read on the internet.
#57
05-27-2007, 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by tn mac
unless you have your head in the sand, you should know there are 6.0 engines giving ford a warranty bath. and in many cases ford didnt step up to the plate and take care of the problems. which is why guys like me no longer trust ford, and will not be buying ford diesels, still the best truck but the 6.4 is not proven and will only be in the sd for 2 years just long enough for the techs to figure out how to work on them and then ford will let you be there beta tester again. most who need to be able to depend on there trucks for work are switching to the v10 or another brand,just cant count on ford diesels.
Originally Posted by mizzitch
Investing the money, even conservatively, that would have be spent on the diesel option would more than make up for any difference in trade in value.
Even if you do haul stuff... wheelbarrows are still pretty cheap
I have realised my wrongs, I am selling my house and purchasing a cardboard box to sleep in so I can save my money and invest it, will also mean that I won't have to worry about the lights in the house, because sometimes they blew, I can't believe it that someone makes lights that blow
...so, gotta run, real estate agent has just arrived
Whats this??? he drives a diesel F250...
What an IDIOT
so... pending my move to a box, I would encourage all those that can't contribute to this thread in the way the original poster intended to get back in thiers
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05-27-2007, 05:04 AM
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#59
05-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by tn mac
unless you have your head in the sand, you should know there are 6.0 engines giving ford a warranty bath. and in many cases ford didnt step up to the plate and take care of the problems. which is why guys like me no longer trust ford, and will not be buying ford diesels, still the best truck but the 6.4 is not proven and will only be in the sd for 2 years just long enough for the techs to figure out how to work on them and then ford will let you be there beta tester again. most who need to be able to depend on there trucks for work are switching to the v10 or another brand,just cant count on ford diesels.
It is amazing how everytime someone wants some information or even to brag the same 5 or 6 jerk offs, start bashing the new truck. This could have been a good thread get some info about problems someone (supposedly) is having and what Ford does about it. But it started out as a bash party from the start.
This site is getting bad!
#60
05-27-2007, 03:07 PM
-- there's plenty more Enthusiasts here than naysayers...