"Originally Posted by origcharger
Dodge has no trouble selling diesel pickups out here in corn country.
I believe a good share of the reason Ford sells so many Powerstrokes is because a large portion of them go in vans and cutaways."


Based on the inline 6 Cummins diesel alone people buy them.

I don't see how you can say it doesn't hold water. Considering Ford has/had virtually no diesel sales competition from GM and Dodge in the large van and cutaway van market its no wonder they sell so many Powerstrokes, many buyers have no other choice.

 

This post was regarding Trucks so my statement was referring to trucks.

 

i think the 6.0 is a blast to drive. you just have to time it better in traffic for the turbo lag. IMO the dodge is rather boring to drive the powerband is so smooth and broad. i like how the ford takes off once the boost comes up

 

I wasn't aware that E-350s or E-450s were not trucks


Where are you getting Powerstroke sales figures that would only apply to your definition of a truck?

 

now you know.... Just joking if you use them as a truck then I guess they can be...

 

I was not aware that a Van is a Truck and a Truck is a Van . So what is the sense of calling a Van a Van if by your definition its actually a truck or vise versa calling a truck a van. I think we are all referring to a "PickupTruck" when we say "truck" but to save words and time it gets shortened down to "Truck" because Pickup just does not cut it anymore. A Van is not a truck.....its a Van and has always been called a van no matter what there used for...."Minivan", "breadvan", "Econoline van" etc.....
If you went to a rental agency and asked for a "truck"....what would they give you? or what if they said they had one "truck" left? would you automatically think its a van? no I think not ....Unless your one of those Van lovers from the '70's but I though they still called them vans.

 

Well I am quite certain that when Ford advertises how many Powerstroke diesels they sell they include the E-series with the F-series.

 

Well when you put it that way than yeah Any vehicle with a "PowerStroke" would count. In my personnel opinion though I dont like going by sales figures cause there are companies out there that get contracts to buy so many vehicles and they are not "usually" buying cause of brand pref, its who ever is the lowest bidder most of the time.

 

Reports are in the media and refer to Fseries trucks.

 

How about a moving van is that a truck or a van?

"Truck" and "van" are very broad terms, many vans and cutaway vans are technically ............trucks.................even trucks with van bodies are trucks.
I believe this is the diesel forum not the diesel pickup truck forum.

 

Depends on what you mean by "movingvan"?....I have seen Caravans and Windstar's used by moving companies and devilery companies those by definition are still Minivans but are being used by business instead of family's. Ok I will just bring out the Encyclopedia definitions and we can all just stop argueing about vans and trucks.

A truck is a large vehicle usually used for transporting bulk goods or other materials. The word "truck" comes from the Greek "trochos", meaning "wheel". In America, the big wheels of wagons were called trucks. When the gasoline engine-driven trucks came into fashion, these were called "motor trucks" and the Heavy Goods Vehicle (HGV)). Lorry is a British term but is only used for the medium and heavy types (see below), i.e. a van, a pickup or a SUV would never be regarded as a "lorry". Other languages have loanwords based on these terms, such as the Malay lori and the Mexican Spanish troca (or pickup in northern Mexico).

In Australia and New Zealand a small vehicle with an open back is called a ute (short for "utility vehicle") and the word "truck" is reserved for larger vehicles.

And a Van,
A van is a kind of vehicle used for transporting goods or groups of people. It is usually a rather box-shaped vehicle on four wheels, about the same width and length as a large automobile, but taller and usually higher off the ground. It can be either specially designed or based on a saloon/sedan car, the latter type often including derivatives with open backs (such as pick-up trucks). There are vans in all shapes and sizes, ranging from the classic van version of the tiny Mini to the five metre long (LWB) variants of the Mercedes Sprinter van. Vehicles larger than this are classified as trucks (or lorries in British English).


In the United States, a van can also refer to a box-shaped trailer or semi-trailer used to carry goods. In this case there is a differentiation between a dry van, used to carry most goods, and a refrigerated van (a reefer) used for cold goods. A railway car used to carry baggage is also called a van.

The term van is also used to refer to a Minivan. However, minivans are usually distinguished by their smaller size (190 to 200 in long), unibody architecture, and front wheel drive powertrains. Minivans have essentially replaced the large family station wagon, many luxury family sedans, and short wheelbased full-size vans that do not require extreme volume, towing, or passengers beyond 7. By comparison with full sized vans, they get good gas mileage, do not require overheight parking, have comfortable flexible seating accommodations such as folding middle or 3rd row seats, lowering windows on passenger doors on left and right side, and power hatch.

However, when it is necessary to tow a large mass, such as a camper, a full size van may be preferred for its larger engine, converted from cargo form to a family vehicle, referred to as a conversion van. A conversion van receives a full interior, extra seats, and comfort options such as air conditioning, indirect lighting, premium sound system, and a video screen system. While a minivan can tow between 2,000 and 4,000 pounds, a full size van can tow in excess of 8,000 pounds, as well as its own weight.

Full size vans are noted for their short nose, which creates a unique engine location. The engine block is located between the two front seats, next to the legs of passengers. An enclosure known as a doghouse covers the engine, and often has an inner padding, as the engine produces a lot of heat.

Ok! End of the "Van vrs Truck" disscusion

Actually this is the "2008 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel" forum and as of rightnow I have not seen an E-series with a 6.4L in it.

 

Well if I went to a rental truck agency I would expect to either get a truck with a van body or a cutaway van with a van body, either one licensed as "trucks".

 

I'm calling BS on this one. Land Surfer, you are not a truthful person.

 

Beat it troll...

 

"Actually this is the "2008 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel" forum and as of rightnow I have not seen an E-series with a 6.4L in it."

Me either.... its also.............................................. ...........................
the "Ford TRUCK Enthuisiasts Forum" and alas there is a van section