Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks (Tundra, Silverado, Titan)
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
My take on all this frame hoopla is that Ford started a trend because of the crash ratings on the previous 150. Now everyone has to do it to keep up.(except Toy)
Toy trucks FOREVER had boxed frames, then went to a C-channel on the Tundras.
Except for early Broncos, Ford has always used a C-channel up untill the current 150. What's funny is the Super Duties still use a C-channel after the front section.
So the paradox is:
If the Ford 150 frame is superiour because it's boxed, is the Super Duty (and every previous 150) junk because they use C-channel frames?
I think I posted this before.........the ONLY time I've heard/read of frame problems was when Ford had too many holes in the new for 1980 frames and GM frames of the 70's cracked at the steering box.
Otherwise I agree with you 100%..........a lot of hoopla.
Toy trucks FOREVER had boxed frames, then went to a C-channel on the Tundras.
Except for early Broncos, Ford has always used a C-channel up untill the current 150. What's funny is the Super Duties still use a C-channel after the front section.
So the paradox is:
If the Ford 150 frame is superiour because it's boxed, is the Super Duty (and every previous 150) junk because they use C-channel frames?
I think I posted this before.........the ONLY time I've heard/read of frame problems was when Ford had too many holes in the new for 1980 frames and GM frames of the 70's cracked at the steering box.
Otherwise I agree with you 100%..........a lot of hoopla.
Hey! my 91 Jeep wrangler has a fully boxed frame. Does that mean if I take the soft top off and install a 5th wheel where the back seat is, that I can tow 5 tons like a new F-150
Even so I'll never be able to tow as much as those 98 4.2's man those things are real powerhouses
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Originally Posted by Krochus
Hey! my 91 Jeep wrangler has a fully boxed frame. Does that mean if I take the soft top off and install a 5th wheel where the back seat is, that I can tow 5 tons like a new F-150
Even so I'll never be able to tow as much as those 98 4.2's man those things are real powerhouses
Even so I'll never be able to tow as much as those 98 4.2's man those things are real powerhouses
'93 Rangers well toe more then that crep heck yur brian ded if you thnk for 1 minite jeeps have any thing on ford trucks because there the bst that you can get and jeeps are just japanes e wanna be fords just today i had to pull a full bus of peeple out of a ravine and my danger ranger did it it in 4th gear lets see you're crap jeep do that
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
'93 Rangers well toe more then that crep heck yur brian ded if you thnk for 1 minite jeeps have any thing on ford trucks because there the bst that you can get and jeeps are just japanes e wanna be fords just today i had to pull a full bus of peeple out of a ravine and my danger ranger did it it in 4th gear lets see you're crap jeep do that
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Mt 1998 F-150 is a beast. ive put 40,000 kms on its now its up to 221,700kms its gonna get me to work today and next 5 years. its got a rumble, for a V6 its got a rumble. sounds better than some Chevy V8s, Hemis, I wonder what the new Tundra gonan sound like, Im gonna test drive one of um like really actully thik about thsi truck look it over see if its just a Toyota or actully a good truck.
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
My 1998 F-150 is a beast. I've put 40,000 kms on it now. It's up to 221,700kms, and it's gonna get me to work today...and for next 5 years. It's got a rumble, for a V6...it's got a rumble. Sounds better than some Chevy V8s, Hemis, I wonder what the new Tundra is going to sound like? I'm gonna test drive one of them. Like really, actually think about this truck, look it over and see if its just a Toyota or actually a good truck.
Looking forward to hearing about what you think.
Last edited by NumberDummy; 01-26-2007 at 05:24 AM.
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
Mt 1998 F-150 is a beast. ive put 40,000 kms on its now its up to 221,700kms its gonna get me to work today and next 5 years. its got a rumble, for a V6 its got a rumble. sounds better than some Chevy V8s, Hemis, I wonder what the new Tundra gonan sound like, Im gonna test drive one of um like really actully thik about thsi truck look it over see if its just a Toyota or actully a good truck.
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Everyone was talking how the new Titan was going to clean house. Well, it has a real HO V-8. And what? Plastic door panels that are a little nicer than my 94 XL? Some rails in the bed which would be covered up/bent in their aluminum extruded mess? Hmmmm... I didn't buy that and apparently not as many ppl elsewhere did either. Tundra sales have actually been down, just like everybody else this past year. They, Toyota had to break out the big rebates also. And quality and reliablity have been the harbingers of the Asian brands quest for customers. What happened to that? Honda, Toyota, Nissan have all had recalls and safety notices is quantity and type of the American Big 3 this past year.
No, Ford has to watch out alright. King of the Hill. Everone gunning for your spot. Everyone wants to be that lucky. But they have to do better than what I'm seeing. Heck, even the Explorer is the number 1 selling SUV still! I wonder why, could it be that Ford knows how to build and sell a quality truck? Yeah, I know the 6.0 has been a nightmare. It was supposed to be an improvement over the 7.3. But it wasn't because they booboo'd. They were promised one thing by International and sold another. Maybe that's why the are moving to build their own diesel inhouse in the future?
No, Ford has to watch out alright. King of the Hill. Everone gunning for your spot. Everyone wants to be that lucky. But they have to do better than what I'm seeing. Heck, even the Explorer is the number 1 selling SUV still! I wonder why, could it be that Ford knows how to build and sell a quality truck? Yeah, I know the 6.0 has been a nightmare. It was supposed to be an improvement over the 7.3. But it wasn't because they booboo'd. They were promised one thing by International and sold another. Maybe that's why the are moving to build their own diesel inhouse in the future?
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