6.4 Liter Performance Modifications
#1
6.4 Liter Performance Modifications
I can happily inform the FTE crowd that LIPD performance recalibration and performance aftermarket components will be available at the same time or shortly thereafter the actual market release of the 6.4
A few sidenotes of information I would like to share for the purposes of information-
Mild to drastic engine control recalibrations will be available in similar caliber to what is available for the 6.0; however harsh race tuning (driven accordingly) will cause more frequent diesel particulate filter regeneration cycles and corresponding losses in fuel mileage.
We will have exhaust system components (EGR cooler/EGR System Deletes, replacement delete pipes for diesel oxidation catalyst, engine particulate filter, and resonator) available soon after the tuning is available; however, unlike the 6.0, no exhaust system modifications will function properly without recalibration due to the presence of multiple exhaust gas temperature thermocouples and exhaust pressure sensors used to monitor the EGR and exhaust emissions components.
Full tank-to-HPFP fuel systems, increased displacement high pressure fuel pumps, high pressure injection lines, and increased flow fuel injectors will be available within 2-3 months. High and Low Pressure turbocharger compressor wheels, along with modified low pressure turbocharger turbine housings will also be available within a similar time frame.
Engine shortblock internal components will likely be 4-6 months out due to low parts availability during vehicle debut, but I will hurry the development along as much as I can
It is my opinion that these vehicles will ultimately be mod-friendly, however modifications must be carried out in a comprehensive fashion, not piece-by-piece like can be gotten away with on the 6.0. I do believe that the 6.4 will be safer to modify at mild and moderate levels over the 6.0 due to a higher basic structural integrity of the control systems and engine hardware, and very satisfactory level of increased performance will be attainable without exhaust or hardware modifications; and by "very satisfactory", I mean a level beyond where the 6.0 is with tuning- in a safe manner.
A few sidenotes of information I would like to share for the purposes of information-
Mild to drastic engine control recalibrations will be available in similar caliber to what is available for the 6.0; however harsh race tuning (driven accordingly) will cause more frequent diesel particulate filter regeneration cycles and corresponding losses in fuel mileage.
We will have exhaust system components (EGR cooler/EGR System Deletes, replacement delete pipes for diesel oxidation catalyst, engine particulate filter, and resonator) available soon after the tuning is available; however, unlike the 6.0, no exhaust system modifications will function properly without recalibration due to the presence of multiple exhaust gas temperature thermocouples and exhaust pressure sensors used to monitor the EGR and exhaust emissions components.
Full tank-to-HPFP fuel systems, increased displacement high pressure fuel pumps, high pressure injection lines, and increased flow fuel injectors will be available within 2-3 months. High and Low Pressure turbocharger compressor wheels, along with modified low pressure turbocharger turbine housings will also be available within a similar time frame.
Engine shortblock internal components will likely be 4-6 months out due to low parts availability during vehicle debut, but I will hurry the development along as much as I can
It is my opinion that these vehicles will ultimately be mod-friendly, however modifications must be carried out in a comprehensive fashion, not piece-by-piece like can be gotten away with on the 6.0. I do believe that the 6.4 will be safer to modify at mild and moderate levels over the 6.0 due to a higher basic structural integrity of the control systems and engine hardware, and very satisfactory level of increased performance will be attainable without exhaust or hardware modifications; and by "very satisfactory", I mean a level beyond where the 6.0 is with tuning- in a safe manner.
#2
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I can happily inform the FTE crowd that LIPD performance recalibration and performance aftermarket components will be available at the same time or shortly thereafter the actual market release of the 6.4
A few sidenotes of information I would like to share for the purposes of information-
Mild to drastic engine control recalibrations will be available in similar caliber to what is available for the 6.0; however harsh race tuning (driven accordingly) will cause more frequent diesel particulate filter regeneration cycles and corresponding losses in fuel mileage.
We will have exhaust system components (EGR cooler/EGR System Deletes, replacement delete pipes for diesel oxidation catalyst, engine particulate filter, and resonator) available soon after the tuning is available; however, unlike the 6.0, no exhaust system modifications will function properly without recalibration due to the presence of multiple exhaust gas temperature thermocouples and exhaust pressure sensors used to monitor the EGR and exhaust emissions components.
Full tank-to-HPFP fuel systems, increased displacement high pressure fuel pumps, high pressure injection lines, and increased flow fuel injectors will be available within 2-3 months. High and Low Pressure turbocharger compressor wheels, along with modified low pressure turbocharger turbine housings will also be available within a similar time frame.
Engine shortblock internal components will likely be 4-6 months out due to low parts availability during vehicle debut, but I will hurry the development along as much as I can
It is my opinion that these vehicles will ultimately be mod-friendly, however modifications must be carried out in a comprehensive fashion, not piece-by-piece like can be gotten away with on the 6.0. I do believe that the 6.4 will be safer to modify at mild and moderate levels over the 6.0 due to a higher basic structural integrity of the control systems and engine hardware, and very satisfactory level of increased performance will be attainable without exhaust or hardware modifications; and by "very satisfactory", I mean a level beyond where the 6.0 is with tuning- in a safe manner.
A few sidenotes of information I would like to share for the purposes of information-
Mild to drastic engine control recalibrations will be available in similar caliber to what is available for the 6.0; however harsh race tuning (driven accordingly) will cause more frequent diesel particulate filter regeneration cycles and corresponding losses in fuel mileage.
We will have exhaust system components (EGR cooler/EGR System Deletes, replacement delete pipes for diesel oxidation catalyst, engine particulate filter, and resonator) available soon after the tuning is available; however, unlike the 6.0, no exhaust system modifications will function properly without recalibration due to the presence of multiple exhaust gas temperature thermocouples and exhaust pressure sensors used to monitor the EGR and exhaust emissions components.
Full tank-to-HPFP fuel systems, increased displacement high pressure fuel pumps, high pressure injection lines, and increased flow fuel injectors will be available within 2-3 months. High and Low Pressure turbocharger compressor wheels, along with modified low pressure turbocharger turbine housings will also be available within a similar time frame.
Engine shortblock internal components will likely be 4-6 months out due to low parts availability during vehicle debut, but I will hurry the development along as much as I can
It is my opinion that these vehicles will ultimately be mod-friendly, however modifications must be carried out in a comprehensive fashion, not piece-by-piece like can be gotten away with on the 6.0. I do believe that the 6.4 will be safer to modify at mild and moderate levels over the 6.0 due to a higher basic structural integrity of the control systems and engine hardware, and very satisfactory level of increased performance will be attainable without exhaust or hardware modifications; and by "very satisfactory", I mean a level beyond where the 6.0 is with tuning- in a safe manner.
Now a question about your 6.4L mods. What do they do to Ford's warranty?
#3
All I can say is, as with current modified trucks...if Ford finds out..warranty is done. Im sure Ford wont budge on this issue.
The news sounds very promising though. I would be interested to find out more on how you can increase the power without exhaust and hardware mods...that sounds interesting. Simple chip maybe?
My biggest question would be this, I thought that if the truck sensed that the emissions stuff would be gone, the truck would throw codes and go into some sort of limp mode, and im guessing you have found some way around that?
Happy New Year!
The news sounds very promising though. I would be interested to find out more on how you can increase the power without exhaust and hardware mods...that sounds interesting. Simple chip maybe?
My biggest question would be this, I thought that if the truck sensed that the emissions stuff would be gone, the truck would throw codes and go into some sort of limp mode, and im guessing you have found some way around that?
Happy New Year!
#4
Originally Posted by SuperDutyJ4500
All I can say is, as with current modified trucks...if Ford finds out..warranty is done. Im sure Ford wont budge on this issue.
The news sounds very promising though. I would be interested to find out more on how you can increase the power without exhaust and hardware mods...that sounds interesting. Simple chip maybe?
My biggest question would be this, I thought that if the truck sensed that the emissions stuff would be gone, the truck would throw codes and go into some sort of limp mode, and im guessing you have found some way around that?
#6
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Ford has plenty of countermeasures in place for the 2008 trucks; even the actual flashing operation takes some tricks that were not neccessary for the 6.0. However, when all is said and done, the Xcal2 with our programs will be FAR more "stealth" than they ever have been. I can't go into the specifics but it will be totally impossible for a technician to recognize, and extrodinarily difficult even for field engineers. I realize there are some people who would likely object to that statement, but the simple matter of fact is that is how it has to be; and therefore will be. Bob is correct, if they DO see it, they aren't going to authorize a powertrain claim.
Just my $0.02......
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Originally Posted by amiller93
350/650 was the last I heard
Remember when about 185hp and 400lb/tq was the norm?........
Begs the question "how much is enough"....?.....
Oh well.....I can see it for those of you who race trucks.....but even towing stuff in the mountains should be no problem with those numbers......I do it OK with a stock 7.3L with 235hp and 500lb tq.
I think the numbers you quoted above are similar to the duramaxes......Good numbers anyway, and more than enough power for me.....
Last edited by cmpd1781; 01-01-2007 at 08:59 PM.