thinking bout homemade turbo setup
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thinking bout homemade turbo setup
What kind of turbo should i use/ would prefer less lag over more boost but cheap is good
internal or external wastegate
benifits of intercooler other than more power
want it simple as possible
can i run just one of my exhuast tubes to the turbo? got long tube headers
do i need electronics to control boost or can i have a wastegate that uses a vacuum line from manifold and how would i adjust how much boost i want
internal or external wastegate
benifits of intercooler other than more power
want it simple as possible
can i run just one of my exhuast tubes to the turbo? got long tube headers
do i need electronics to control boost or can i have a wastegate that uses a vacuum line from manifold and how would i adjust how much boost i want
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What kind of turbo should i use/ would prefer less lag over more boost but cheap is good
If you want to do this the monkey way, you can ballpark the turbo size with this formula:
internal or external wastegate
benifits of intercooler other than more power
want it simple as possible
can i run just one of my exhuast tubes to the turbo? got long tube headers
There is a lot of serious, complex math involved with this if you want a "true" solution, or you can guestimate/ballpark using the monkey math above.
[quotedo i need electronics to control boost or can i have a wastegate that uses a vacuum line from manifold and how would i adjust how much boost i want[/QUOTE]
Assuming you can size things properly to get the boost you want, you can use a variable regulator to control boost. Some internal wastegates do not like this type of device, most do. External is no problem of course. You can control the variable regulator mechanically with a lever, or a ****, or with electronics. There is no shortage of either.
My old twin-turbo dodge used a small servo with a huge spring to open the wastegates, and power was applied to that servo if one or more of the following conditions were reached:
- Engine hit redline
- Intake pressure reached 25psi
- Oil pressure dropped below 10psi
- A manual override switch in the cab was pushed
Hope that gets you started.
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The other thing I'll add about headers is if you're using the typical mild steel headers you'll find that they're going to get extremely hot, at least a bright red if not almost an orange under full boost for extended periods of roadplay. Mild steel headers typically use thin steel therefore it will crack, split, and maybe even blow out or peel apart. All of which can ruin anything near them.
Stainless endures more heat, but of course stainless has a higher cost associated with them, but if you can weld and fabricate you can bend (or section and reweld) black pipe found in most home centers. A 1.5" ID black pipe has a typical wall thickness in the 3/16" to 1/4" range, more than enough meat to not pull apart with the extremely hot exhaust flowing through.
Remember that the turbo, while it provides boost, also increases back pressure therefore increases the heat in the headers. Making them yourself isn't too bad, but like I said if you don't have access to a pipe bender, you can section the pipes easily enough and weld them together, like so:
These are probably the ugliest turbo manifolds you will ever see, however they'll work well enough for my twin turbo 500cid application. By far better than the stock cast iron manifolds for sure. Ignore the shape of the exhaust ports - I deliberately bored them undersized (with a hole saw!) so I had "meat" to grind out so I can port match them to the heads, once I'm done porting those heads.
While the manifolds were a fair amount of effort on my part, the black pipe cost me $30, the turbo flanges can be bought on ebay for $15 a pop, and the header flanges are just $4 (each) worth of flat steel 5/16" thick, about 19" long, and 3-1/2" wide I think. Nothing fancy, nothing special, commonly available materials.
By using the very thick wall black pipe welded together, along with the 5/16" thick header plates, they are strong enough to support the weight of the screaming turbos, which saves me the aggrevation of making bracketry later on. Of course this puts additional weight on the exhaust studs, but I'll be using strong ARP fasteners for that and the way I have the header plates sitting on the heads, there's quite a bit of metal of the flanges resting on the head so that will give it a lot of surface area to make a good seal, and spread the weight around a little bit.
Stainless endures more heat, but of course stainless has a higher cost associated with them, but if you can weld and fabricate you can bend (or section and reweld) black pipe found in most home centers. A 1.5" ID black pipe has a typical wall thickness in the 3/16" to 1/4" range, more than enough meat to not pull apart with the extremely hot exhaust flowing through.
Remember that the turbo, while it provides boost, also increases back pressure therefore increases the heat in the headers. Making them yourself isn't too bad, but like I said if you don't have access to a pipe bender, you can section the pipes easily enough and weld them together, like so:
These are probably the ugliest turbo manifolds you will ever see, however they'll work well enough for my twin turbo 500cid application. By far better than the stock cast iron manifolds for sure. Ignore the shape of the exhaust ports - I deliberately bored them undersized (with a hole saw!) so I had "meat" to grind out so I can port match them to the heads, once I'm done porting those heads.
While the manifolds were a fair amount of effort on my part, the black pipe cost me $30, the turbo flanges can be bought on ebay for $15 a pop, and the header flanges are just $4 (each) worth of flat steel 5/16" thick, about 19" long, and 3-1/2" wide I think. Nothing fancy, nothing special, commonly available materials.
By using the very thick wall black pipe welded together, along with the 5/16" thick header plates, they are strong enough to support the weight of the screaming turbos, which saves me the aggrevation of making bracketry later on. Of course this puts additional weight on the exhaust studs, but I'll be using strong ARP fasteners for that and the way I have the header plates sitting on the heads, there's quite a bit of metal of the flanges resting on the head so that will give it a lot of surface area to make a good seal, and spread the weight around a little bit.
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