New Power Steering Pump but will it fit??? Someone help..
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New Power Steering Pump but will it fit??? Someone help..
Hey guys,
I picked up a power steering pump off of a 1988 f150 w/302 on ebay. It only has 1000 miles and looks brand new. I'm wondering if it will fit my 1994 f150 w/302. Mine whines so bad and is deserving of a shiny new one, but I'm wondering if they fit.
Also how difficult are they to install and should I be taking this to a shop? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I picked up a power steering pump off of a 1988 f150 w/302 on ebay. It only has 1000 miles and looks brand new. I'm wondering if it will fit my 1994 f150 w/302. Mine whines so bad and is deserving of a shiny new one, but I'm wondering if they fit.
Also how difficult are they to install and should I be taking this to a shop? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
#4
I would suggest contacting a Ford Dealer parts department and ask them if the pumps for the two model years have the same part number. Or check out NAPA's auto parts website and see if the two pumps share the same part number. Or just eyeball the two and see if it is likely that the two will interchange.
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Moose,
The pump should work fine. Both those years wee equipped with a srpantine belt.
The swap will go much easier if you can get your hands on the special pulley puller and pusher tools that are made for that pump. I just rebuilt mine, and got the tools froma mechanic friend. They probably saved me a few hours of frustration, especially during the reinstallaion of the pulley. Unless you're changing out the whole bracket, you have to pull the pulley to change the pump.
The pump should work fine. Both those years wee equipped with a srpantine belt.
The swap will go much easier if you can get your hands on the special pulley puller and pusher tools that are made for that pump. I just rebuilt mine, and got the tools froma mechanic friend. They probably saved me a few hours of frustration, especially during the reinstallaion of the pulley. Unless you're changing out the whole bracket, you have to pull the pulley to change the pump.
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Yes, the pump mounts to the bracket. You'll want to take a real close look at your bracket. On the 300's the bracket runs down the whole left side of the engine (top to bottom) and the ac compressor has to come off too. In that case, it was easier to remove the pulley.
But, if the ps bracket is independent of other accesories, then it would definitely be easier to swap out brackets too.
But, if the ps bracket is independent of other accesories, then it would definitely be easier to swap out brackets too.
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#12
Okay I can't change the pump because I don't have the tools needed. BUT.. I called the dealer today seeing if the 1988 pump would fit on a 1994 and they said no... AHHHHHH .... and then so I asked how much a new pump would be and they said.... $390 CAD + core..... ...
As you could probably guess I was p/o'ed. You see I just dont understand why a power steering pump could possibly cost this much money. For example a differential can be had for what $100? It may be used but still, what else for 400 I would think you could get a rebuilt rear end for that and really a differential sounds way more complex than a pump. But anyways I wasn't very happy nor was I going to pay $400 cause that's rediculous.
So I called up a buddy of mine. The dealer had told me that 1987-1989 pumps are the same and then they changed, but mark assured me that the pump would fit my truck and all I had to do was swap the pullies. But I am wondering about the gear into steering box? Would it be the same? Mark really knows fords apparently more than the dealer does..(he used to work at the dealership but moved to plumbing) He drives a 1979 Full Size Bronco with a 1988 body, 8" lift on 38.5 TSL's, 351W w/4speed 9" rear. So I think marky boy might know, but I wanted to ask you guys to see before I get a shop to take it all apart and then me not have a truck to drive cause the pumps are too much. I don't trust boneyard pumps cause they could just whine and I'd be back to square one.
So if you guys could help that would be great. The pumps both look similar but i need to be sure. Thank you guys so much for your help.
Moose.
As you could probably guess I was p/o'ed. You see I just dont understand why a power steering pump could possibly cost this much money. For example a differential can be had for what $100? It may be used but still, what else for 400 I would think you could get a rebuilt rear end for that and really a differential sounds way more complex than a pump. But anyways I wasn't very happy nor was I going to pay $400 cause that's rediculous.
So I called up a buddy of mine. The dealer had told me that 1987-1989 pumps are the same and then they changed, but mark assured me that the pump would fit my truck and all I had to do was swap the pullies. But I am wondering about the gear into steering box? Would it be the same? Mark really knows fords apparently more than the dealer does..(he used to work at the dealership but moved to plumbing) He drives a 1979 Full Size Bronco with a 1988 body, 8" lift on 38.5 TSL's, 351W w/4speed 9" rear. So I think marky boy might know, but I wanted to ask you guys to see before I get a shop to take it all apart and then me not have a truck to drive cause the pumps are too much. I don't trust boneyard pumps cause they could just whine and I'd be back to square one.
So if you guys could help that would be great. The pumps both look similar but i need to be sure. Thank you guys so much for your help.
Moose.
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Yep, the pulley's changed sometime in that timeframe, but other than that, the pump should be the same. Man, for $400, I'd think a guy could buy a set of the official pulley tools and still be money ahead.
On the other hand, you could yank the saginaw (canned ham) pump off a Ford van or a lincoln and stick it in your truck. There are some who swear that is a better pump and makes less noise, etc. According to the specs, the Ford pump (plastic reservoir) actually flows slightly higher gpm and also runs at a higher pressure (that may be the source of peoples' complaints about it being noisy).
On the other hand, you could yank the saginaw (canned ham) pump off a Ford van or a lincoln and stick it in your truck. There are some who swear that is a better pump and makes less noise, etc. According to the specs, the Ford pump (plastic reservoir) actually flows slightly higher gpm and also runs at a higher pressure (that may be the source of peoples' complaints about it being noisy).
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Everything I've read on it, and the Ford Mechanic I got the puller from says the pumps are the same, just the pulley is different for some years. And I'm not even sure that the pulley diameter is different, but the diameter of the little flange on the front where the puller goes is different.
I suppose, just to be safe, a guy should ensure that the pump you're looking at has the same rotation. Otherwise, the pump should mount to the bracket with 3 bolts (which are behind the pulley). My main concern would be if the bracket will line up with your motor. But the pump specs for that pulley look to be the same, whether it came out of an Escort or an F350.
I suppose, just to be safe, a guy should ensure that the pump you're looking at has the same rotation. Otherwise, the pump should mount to the bracket with 3 bolts (which are behind the pulley). My main concern would be if the bracket will line up with your motor. But the pump specs for that pulley look to be the same, whether it came out of an Escort or an F350.