Can we relate the problems to the build plants? Quite frequently the build plants while having different personnel also get their components from different suppliers/plants.

The eleventh VIN position is the assembly plant code.
S — Allen Park (Allen Park, Michigan)
E — Kentucky Truck (Jefferson County, Kentucky)
M — Cuautitlan (Cuautitlan, Mexico)

Those of you with DSBs and problems/defects post here.

20 to 30 would give us the beginning of a trend.

The good trucks are really good. The bad trucks are very bad. There has to be a relationship some where.

 

I believe all SDs and Xs sold in the US are made at KTP. So your trend would show 100% of the problem trucks are coming from the same plant.

 

you ought to add engine build plant, Indianapolis or Huntsville

 

I think psd is right all 3 of my super dutys from ky.

 

The problem is more complex than that. Components come from many different places. Some manufacturers use different sources for the same component. For example the 6.0 can be from Indianna or Alabama. Where do the thousands of parts that make up a 6.0 come from? A bad lot of parts from a component manufacturer can cause problems. It gets real convoluted real fast.

 

But where are the subsystems built...like the PCM...like the VGT

I like Bobs idea….. how can we figure out what part where..

Don't most of these plants receive all if not most as a components or subsystem level parts and then all they do is assemble...

 

i put the blame on FORD, period!

 

If anybody is to blame it's Navistar, a division of Ford who develops and builds the PSD's, not Ford, who just puts the engine in their trucks.

 

actually, navistar is who build the engines, ford buys them, then uses their own program to do whatever they like to them, correct?

 

True, also, Navistar has no problems with their version of the 6.0.

 

So true. I thought I read that Ford really wanted this engine to be a "Ford" engine. So they tinkered with it, like using their own design of injectors.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

 

My bad. Well got that cleared up. Kinda like the International version of the 6.0 PSD, the VT365, hasn't had any problems that I know of.

 

Build locations are:
F250-F550, Kentucky
F650-F750 Mexico

 

international/harvester/navistar is not a subsidiary of ford.


i wish i could find the article relating to injectors, something about ford sourced these/designed whatever.... and this was the first, and largest problem with the 6.... since the vt365 does not use the same injectors, it was summized that ford created this problem by specifying the use of a particular injector (and tuning!) in order to play horsepower war.....with an engine not designed for such wars.
of course, this is speculation, untill i find the source to find out if thats credible, or internet garbage.....

 

bummer with a sad face ..he says you left the X's out