I'm back...with a 1990 Ford F-150 Regular Cab Short Box
#106
That's pretty hard on the tires. That's why I suggested the line of sight alignment but either way, shouldn't have done any lasting harm.
As for the price, if they get it right on, it's not totally crazy. High, yes, but these things aren't exactly a joy to align. At the same time, if the toe is corrected it might not be out of spec. Changing tie rod ends shouldn't change caster/camber, so unless that aspect of the alignment was off before it should still be ok. Did they put it on the rack yet to see where things are at?
As for the price, if they get it right on, it's not totally crazy. High, yes, but these things aren't exactly a joy to align. At the same time, if the toe is corrected it might not be out of spec. Changing tie rod ends shouldn't change caster/camber, so unless that aspect of the alignment was off before it should still be ok. Did they put it on the rack yet to see where things are at?
#107
Congrats on getting the job done! The TTB setup is a bit of a pain to align, but I would expect them to check/adjust the camber and caster for that price.
Camber and caster are good things to adjust. Camber will help your tires wear evenly and improve handling, and caster will control how your pickup tracks down the road and how the steering centers.
Camber and caster are good things to adjust. Camber will help your tires wear evenly and improve handling, and caster will control how your pickup tracks down the road and how the steering centers.
#108
Congrats on getting the job done! The TTB setup is a bit of a pain to align, but I would expect them to check/adjust the camber and caster for that price.
Camber and caster are good things to adjust. Camber will help your tires wear evenly and improve handling, and caster will control how your pickup tracks down the road and how the steering centers.
Camber and caster are good things to adjust. Camber will help your tires wear evenly and improve handling, and caster will control how your pickup tracks down the road and how the steering centers.
Thanks, took me two afternoons, one morning and an hour of my afternoon but I guess I got it done.
I'll probably just let them align the whole thing. My trucks tires were wearing awful, so I figure my camber is way off.
#109
Hey buddy! Did you enjoy watching me bust my knuckles?!
Thanks, took me two afternoons, one morning and an hour of my afternoon but I guess I got it done.
I'll probably just let them align the whole thing. My trucks tires were wearing awful, so I figure my camber is way off.
Thanks, took me two afternoons, one morning and an hour of my afternoon but I guess I got it done.
I'll probably just let them align the whole thing. My trucks tires were wearing awful, so I figure my camber is way off.
Camber will not wear your tires nearly as quickly as having excessive toe in or toe out.
#110
If they get it aligned well it'll drive really nice. Bonus is these trucks hold alignments well if you're not crazy off road. If you are charged $200 do not accept anything like crooked steering wheel, a pull to one side, etc. If its done right I could see shelling out the money. And yes, incorrect toe will roast tires faster than anything, bad camber not nearly as much, caster has no appreciable effect on tire wear but does effect handling.
#111
If they get it aligned well it'll drive really nice. Bonus is these trucks hold alignments well if you're not crazy off road. If you are charged $200 do not accept anything like crooked steering wheel, a pull to one side, etc. If its done right I could see shelling out the money. And yes, incorrect toe will roast tires faster than anything, bad camber not nearly as much, caster has no appreciable effect on tire wear but does effect handling.
#112
Just found this! Thought y'all might enjoy.
Well...my true feelings are this... ;P
All station wagons deserve that suspension design...
It suits the man/woman who enjoys tire rotation,
likes a little adventure when navigating a road that isn't perfectly smooth...
Enjoys the word "HUH?!" and the term "Your kidding, right?!" when at the alignment shop.
It is truly a man's man suspension as no other design in the world would
require a different toe setting for each 5 gallons of gas burned...
You have to be the type that enjoys the fact that it never has proper
caster/camber/toe regardless of what you do...
And the crowning touch; when BS'ing at the mall about the rig's prowess, the
TTB owner is the ONLY ONE that can brag, "It has adjustable toe and stuff as you drive!"
And finally, you have to be the sort that finds pleasure in non-conformist activity,
and can smile knowing that no matter where you are driving, and even at times sitting still...
your alignment and which way the wheels are pointing is only correct 15% of the time.
NoRM
Well...my true feelings are this... ;P
All station wagons deserve that suspension design...
It suits the man/woman who enjoys tire rotation,
likes a little adventure when navigating a road that isn't perfectly smooth...
Enjoys the word "HUH?!" and the term "Your kidding, right?!" when at the alignment shop.
It is truly a man's man suspension as no other design in the world would
require a different toe setting for each 5 gallons of gas burned...
You have to be the type that enjoys the fact that it never has proper
caster/camber/toe regardless of what you do...
And the crowning touch; when BS'ing at the mall about the rig's prowess, the
TTB owner is the ONLY ONE that can brag, "It has adjustable toe and stuff as you drive!"
And finally, you have to be the sort that finds pleasure in non-conformist activity,
and can smile knowing that no matter where you are driving, and even at times sitting still...
your alignment and which way the wheels are pointing is only correct 15% of the time.
NoRM
#113
I think they all claim that. Has more to do with the operator having a little pride in his/her work. But yes, should have a printout, and it'll probably be done well. I've just heard a lot of stories about shops doing half azzed alignments on these things so just be firm if something isn't right.
I suspect being in MT, where these old trucks don't rot to non-existance like in the salt belt, there are still tech's that know what they're doing aligning them.
I suspect being in MT, where these old trucks don't rot to non-existance like in the salt belt, there are still tech's that know what they're doing aligning them.
#114
I think they all claim that. Has more to do with the operator having a little pride in his/her work. But yes, should have a printout, and it'll probably be done well. I've just heard a lot of stories about shops doing half azzed alignments on these things so just be firm if something isn't right.
I suspect being in MT, where these old trucks don't rot to non-existance like in the salt belt, there are still tech's that know what they're doing aligning them.
I suspect being in MT, where these old trucks don't rot to non-existance like in the salt belt, there are still tech's that know what they're doing aligning them.
I love my old Montana trucks.
Where can I find the factory alignment specs?
#115
Just got a call, they said there's some slop in my gearbox (that's a given)... They said the toe before they got it on the rack was 4 inches off... In other words, not even measurable in degrees, lol. Then they said they got my camber within point-seven degrees of each other. I'm assuming that's not much and it's fine to drive? Charge came out to $59.95
#117
This thing drives about 10x better now that I did the tie rods and got an alignment.
This thing is TOO GOOD for me. The MPGs went up ALOT since I got the new tie rods and alignment... Like, alot.
I always smell my clutch, that's probably because I'm garbage at driving a manual. Should I stop trying to downshift in order to save my clutch?
The only other major issue which isn't even major, is that my cruise control will surge slightly on the highway, but is fine when I manually control the gas. Ideas?
This thing is TOO GOOD for me. The MPGs went up ALOT since I got the new tie rods and alignment... Like, alot.
I always smell my clutch, that's probably because I'm garbage at driving a manual. Should I stop trying to downshift in order to save my clutch?
The only other major issue which isn't even major, is that my cruise control will surge slightly on the highway, but is fine when I manually control the gas. Ideas?
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I am too, apparently...Though this is my first manual..