AOD Tranny on an FE
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AOD Tranny on an FE
Has anyone ever seen one of these or better yet done or have this combo?
I read an article from May, 2006 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines about how this can be done for under $1200.
Didn't really go into the pros and cons of a swap. I'm wondering if there is any real good reason to do it, like improved mileage?
I read an article from May, 2006 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines about how this can be done for under $1200.
Didn't really go into the pros and cons of a swap. I'm wondering if there is any real good reason to do it, like improved mileage?
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I have a '98 Ford 4R70W transmission that will be going in my truck behind a '90 Mustang 5.0L H.O. EFI engine or, a 351W I have that I would fuel inject --haven't crossed that bridge yet to decide which way I'm going to go on that. Naturally, this transmission is configured to fit either of these engines.
At any rate, I would assume there's probably an adapter to mate the overdrive to an FE --there's a guy on here with a '64 F100 (I believe) that has a 466 (385-series 460) with a 4R70W adapted to the engine in his truck and he loves it.
Doing something like this is going to cost on the front end. The advantage is it doesn't burn as much fuel when you do drive the truck. Some will say it will take years to offset the initial cost with the gas savings --maybe never. The other benefit is you aren't spinning your engine to its death as quickly at highway speeds. --engines generally cost more to replace than transmissions so, you decide if it would be worth it. The decibel level inside the truck is also much lower at highway speeds with an overdrive and on trips of more than 30 miles, that can be a big savings on your sanity that's completely priceless.
For me, I didn't buy my truck as an 'investment' to turn around, flip it, and sell it for a profit so, Im not worried about the money put into it and having to be worried about 'profit margins' come resale time. That being the case, I'm not overly concerned with the cost of things to make the truck like I want it --of course, there is some degree of monetary reasonable limit on that.
If I want to do something that's going to be expensive, I buy the parts I need, here and there, spreading my cost out over time until I finally have everything I need to install it. In the mean time, I enjoy the truck and drive it like it is until that change can be implemented. This approach doesn't kill my finances in the process and in the end, I get what I ultimately wanted to do with my truck in making it be what I want it to be.
At any rate, I would assume there's probably an adapter to mate the overdrive to an FE --there's a guy on here with a '64 F100 (I believe) that has a 466 (385-series 460) with a 4R70W adapted to the engine in his truck and he loves it.
Doing something like this is going to cost on the front end. The advantage is it doesn't burn as much fuel when you do drive the truck. Some will say it will take years to offset the initial cost with the gas savings --maybe never. The other benefit is you aren't spinning your engine to its death as quickly at highway speeds. --engines generally cost more to replace than transmissions so, you decide if it would be worth it. The decibel level inside the truck is also much lower at highway speeds with an overdrive and on trips of more than 30 miles, that can be a big savings on your sanity that's completely priceless.
For me, I didn't buy my truck as an 'investment' to turn around, flip it, and sell it for a profit so, Im not worried about the money put into it and having to be worried about 'profit margins' come resale time. That being the case, I'm not overly concerned with the cost of things to make the truck like I want it --of course, there is some degree of monetary reasonable limit on that.
If I want to do something that's going to be expensive, I buy the parts I need, here and there, spreading my cost out over time until I finally have everything I need to install it. In the mean time, I enjoy the truck and drive it like it is until that change can be implemented. This approach doesn't kill my finances in the process and in the end, I get what I ultimately wanted to do with my truck in making it be what I want it to be.
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That's 2006 dollars then... 10 years ago and the cost of everything has gone up (save for gasoline which is a commodity).
The last time I checked Performance Automatic the going price for a bolt on system was like $4K.
Can it be done for less? Sure. Visit Bendtsen's for an $800 adapter plate and go from there....
MPG? Yes. I can get 18 mpg with the TKO behind a 360FE.... it'll never pay for itself but it is more pleasurable cruising at 2000 rpm than 3000 rpm.
The last time I checked Performance Automatic the going price for a bolt on system was like $4K.
Can it be done for less? Sure. Visit Bendtsen's for an $800 adapter plate and go from there....
MPG? Yes. I can get 18 mpg with the TKO behind a 360FE.... it'll never pay for itself but it is more pleasurable cruising at 2000 rpm than 3000 rpm.
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I have an AOD in my 91 mercury grand marquis 302 5.0. Not the greatest transmission. The OD sucks especially. From what I'v ready on the forums, the 4R70W is an upgrade from the AOD.
Gas milage isn't that much better in town at 13.5-14mpg but on the highway it's a little better 19-20mpg. That's at 65mph. Go any faster and it will drop quick.
Gas milage isn't that much better in town at 13.5-14mpg but on the highway it's a little better 19-20mpg. That's at 65mph. Go any faster and it will drop quick.
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FEs are such good torque engines and perfect for truck use. I need to do some selling of the parts and extra truck I don't need, and have been actively looking for a bump. Many have FEs like you guys do so it's good to see how they can be "modernized" a bit for good all around use.
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I have an AOD in my 91 mercury grand marquis 302 5.0. Not the greatest transmission. The OD sucks especially. From what I'v ready on the forums, the 4R70W is an upgrade from the AOD.
Gas milage isn't that much better in town at 13.5-14mpg but on the highway it's a little better 19-20mpg. That's at 65mph. Go any faster and it will drop quick.
Gas milage isn't that much better in town at 13.5-14mpg but on the highway it's a little better 19-20mpg. That's at 65mph. Go any faster and it will drop quick.
I think when the time comes I am going to go with the ear vendor or swap out to the tranny HIO put in. I'll just save my pennies. Who knows maybe something else will come along where I can take out the beast and put something a little more modern. By that time I'll probably be able to get a
" Flux Capacitor " that runs on garbage with a 12 speed tranny.
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Yeah, I don't want to go faster than 70. Just like to be able to keep up in the slow lane w/o the engine howlin at me like a scalded dog. LOL.
I think when the time comes I am going to go with the ear vendor or swap out to the tranny HIO put in. I'll just save my pennies. Who knows maybe something else will come along where I can take out the beast and put something a little more modern. By that time I'll probably be able to get a
" Flux Capacitor " that runs on garbage with a 12 speed tranny.
I think when the time comes I am going to go with the ear vendor or swap out to the tranny HIO put in. I'll just save my pennies. Who knows maybe something else will come along where I can take out the beast and put something a little more modern. By that time I'll probably be able to get a
" Flux Capacitor " that runs on garbage with a 12 speed tranny.
New Ford F-150 engine, transmission available in October
They are also being put in the new Camaros but, I assume there may be some case differences between the Ford and Chevrolet transmission designs.
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This is a common misconception. The flux capacitor can actually be powered by anything that can generate 1.21 gigawatts (Great Scott!!)... lightning bolt, nuclear reactor, etc... If you want it to run on garbage you're gonna need a "Mr. Fusion" Home Energy Reactor to power your Flux Capacitor. I've been keeping an eye out on ebay for a good used one, but I haven't been able to find one in my price range...