351m vs 400
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Oiling is the same as all the Clevelands-so if you don't like that then stop now, otherwise not a biggy.
Some blocks crack but are well documented either up in the lifter gallery for certain years or if you bore the blocks too much-usually due to core shift.
Never heard of the soft cranks.
I will confess to knowing nothing much about 351M's specifically but their big issues are crap compression and decent rebuild pistons are non existent.
400's are the orphan of the 70's fords but a lot better than the 351m.
Some blocks crack but are well documented either up in the lifter gallery for certain years or if you bore the blocks too much-usually due to core shift.
Never heard of the soft cranks.
I will confess to knowing nothing much about 351M's specifically but their big issues are crap compression and decent rebuild pistons are non existent.
400's are the orphan of the 70's fords but a lot better than the 351m.
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Oiling is the same as all the Clevelands-so if you don't like that then stop now, otherwise not a biggy.
Some blocks crack but are well documented either up in the lifter gallery for certain years or if you bore the blocks too much-usually due to core shift.
Never heard of the soft cranks.
I will confess to knowing nothing much about 351M's specifically but their big issues are crap compression and decent rebuild pistons are non existent.
400's are the orphan of the 70's fords but a lot better than the 351m.
Some blocks crack but are well documented either up in the lifter gallery for certain years or if you bore the blocks too much-usually due to core shift.
Never heard of the soft cranks.
I will confess to knowing nothing much about 351M's specifically but their big issues are crap compression and decent rebuild pistons are non existent.
400's are the orphan of the 70's fords but a lot better than the 351m.
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mmmm No pistons available other than TMI. I used 351C flat tops and bushed the small end of the rod with 292 bushings and got 9.3:1 cr also ARP rod bolts and a grinding on the casting flash to smooth them out. If you want the FULL 351M to 400 info there are LOTS of members who have done everything from mild to wild. Not to HI-JACK but Hi CRSMIFFY How are ya !!! Popa J.
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Andrew,
Don't worry! Yes the 400 is a better engine than the 351M. Yes it shares the same oiling system challenges but they are easily overcome. See Tim Meyer for performance help, he has done 400 builds making over 600HP, so you can do a lot if you want to. Never heard the "soft crank" thing myself, in fact some drag racers have been known to use the factory crank without issues.
The 351M is a purposefully smaller version of a purposefully de-tuned 400 - so yes it gets a bad rap. The 400 can be an excellent engine if built outside the confines of the late 1970's. Any reasonable rebuild of the 400 will net you over 300HP and excellent torque, so the real question is "What is you goal?"
Don't worry! Yes the 400 is a better engine than the 351M. Yes it shares the same oiling system challenges but they are easily overcome. See Tim Meyer for performance help, he has done 400 builds making over 600HP, so you can do a lot if you want to. Never heard the "soft crank" thing myself, in fact some drag racers have been known to use the factory crank without issues.
The 351M is a purposefully smaller version of a purposefully de-tuned 400 - so yes it gets a bad rap. The 400 can be an excellent engine if built outside the confines of the late 1970's. Any reasonable rebuild of the 400 will net you over 300HP and excellent torque, so the real question is "What is you goal?"
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See them little do dads at the top of the cylinder walls? They are relief cuts for the valves. 351Ms and 400s have them. 351Ws don't. Why? Cause 351Ws don't have valves big enough to need them. Google Clevor and ask yourself what heads do you want.
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Depends what you want to do. The aftermarket for the windsors is huge compared to the 400's but down here in aussie the 351clevo is one of our 70's god engines- massive respect.
Sucks you have the 351m as you would have to stump for a rotating assembly on top of any rebuild to really wake it some so that has to be considered.
As suggested check T Meyers website, he does not only a balanced rotating complete assembly for a 400 for not bad coin, he also does a 430 plus jobbie for a torque monster.
Sucks you have the 351m as you would have to stump for a rotating assembly on top of any rebuild to really wake it some so that has to be considered.
As suggested check T Meyers website, he does not only a balanced rotating complete assembly for a 400 for not bad coin, he also does a 430 plus jobbie for a torque monster.
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Tear it down, make sure it was done right. Rebuilt and never ran? Makes little sense. Might be, might be trouble. jmo, ymmv
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He had it rebuilt for his bronco but ended up deciding on swapping in a 460. It will probably need tearing down anyway because it's been sitting awhile