Ford Excursion - Swap 2nd row bench seat for one with full LATCH system
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This explains why it's not in any Excursions or Super Duty trucks.
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Don't need the LATCH system, just use the seat belts. After bringing up a child seat topic here a while back, I looked deeper into child seat safety and proper install. Seat belts still give you the best possible install, any other system came up because people are lazy and don't know how to do a proper install. The LATCH system was a way to make it somewhat idiot proof.
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Don't need the LATCH system, just use the seat belts. After bringing up a child seat topic here a while back, I looked deeper into child seat safety and proper install. Seat belts still give you the best possible install, any other system came up because people are lazy and don't know how to do a proper install. The LATCH system was a way to make it somewhat idiot proof.
I have two seats for my Ex and two for my wife's van (LATCH Equipped)
When handing the kids off to the grandparents or picking up friend's kids (also LATCH Equipped) it's so much easier to transfer the seats between the LATCH equipped vehicles.
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When you swap seats between cars, it makes the install go a lot faster.
I have two seats for my Ex and two for my wife's van (LATCH Equipped)
When handing the kids off to the grandparents or picking up friend's kids (also LATCH Equipped) it's so much easier to transfer the seats between the LATCH equipped vehicles.
I have two seats for my Ex and two for my wife's van (LATCH Equipped)
When handing the kids off to the grandparents or picking up friend's kids (also LATCH Equipped) it's so much easier to transfer the seats between the LATCH equipped vehicles.
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Don't need the LATCH system, just use the seat belts. After bringing up a child seat topic here a while back, I looked deeper into child seat safety and proper install. Seat belts still give you the best possible install, any other system came up because people are lazy and don't know how to do a proper install. The LATCH system was a way to make it somewhat idiot proof.
Agreed. I can get our car seats in there a lot tighter with Latch which makes them safer. I am not happy with how my daughter's seat fits in the Ex. I break a sweat installing our seats so that they don't move/wiggle at all. If we need to switch seating positions then it's a real PIA!
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You are correct. Once you mentioned that I started looking a little deeper into it. I admit, it is a lot easier but the studies show using the belt is a safer option. The car seats are usually in the wife's Outback which is LATCH equipped but we still use the belts now.
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You are correct. Once you mentioned that I started looking a little deeper into it. I admit, it is a lot easier but the studies show using the belt is a safer option. The car seats are usually in the wife's Outback which is LATCH equipped but we still use the belts now.
I had to teach my ex's boyfriend how to do it, as well as my ex. One too many times I'd meet up to pick up my daughter and the car seat was loose. Quick lesson and how-to and it hasn't been an issue.
I totally agree on LATCH being faster to swap back and forth, but even WITH the system in place I have found a large number of vehicles or seats themselves still do not allow for a tight fit. Anchor placements, seat contours and LATCH clip designs that do not allow for full harness tightening... To be fair, seat belt latches cause the same issues in different vehicles. I can achieve a far tighter fit with the LATCH in my parent's car for example, than I can with the seat belt. So for that, I use the LATCH. The truck however, I use the center belt as its so much easier to work with having no shoulder harness - along with the carseat's top tether. Luckily the stepsons are both in boosters, so it makes it a pinch fitting all three in the middle row.
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I appreciate the knowledge you two have. I am the car seat **** among my friends and family and totally agree that it's a shame people are so lazy to do it right. Something like 70% arent installed correctly. I would always get ours inspected and officer would tell me he's never seen them so tight. The key is the tightness. I have not heard of a safety difference between the two methods as long as they are both installed properly. Does the LATCH fail before the seat belt in a crash?
A little sensitive area when I see friends with loose seats. My youngest is 6 and I put her in a booster in the Ex. The Britax 5 point harness seat I have for her goes up to 80 lbs I think but sits horrible in Ex. Too tall. May give it a go again after this discussion.
A little sensitive area when I see friends with loose seats. My youngest is 6 and I put her in a booster in the Ex. The Britax 5 point harness seat I have for her goes up to 80 lbs I think but sits horrible in Ex. Too tall. May give it a go again after this discussion.
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I have not heard of a safety difference between the two methods as long as they are both installed properly. Does the LATCH fail before the seat belt in a crash?
A little sensitive area when I see friends with loose seats. My youngest is 6 and I put her in a booster in the Ex. The Britax 5 point harness seat I have for her goes up to 80 lbs I think but sits horrible in Ex. Too tall. May give it a go again after this discussion.
A little sensitive area when I see friends with loose seats. My youngest is 6 and I put her in a booster in the Ex. The Britax 5 point harness seat I have for her goes up to 80 lbs I think but sits horrible in Ex. Too tall. May give it a go again after this discussion.
Quoting myself from a previous discussion we had on this:
LATCH was NOT designed as safer, it was designed and intended to be EASIER for parents to properly install car seats by reducing the complexity of seatbelt installations and hopefully reduce the misuse rate of carseats (which is unfortunately still mind-boggling, around 78-80%).
A few months ago LATCH became a topic of debate regarding actual security of the carseat. The problem is there are so many variables and associated forces at work in the event of a collision that it's hard to standardize the anchor system. Different weight of car seats, seat design, and most of all - the child's weight.
Most carseats will have weight limitations for difference methods of securing the seat, including the anchors. Most manufactuers for front facing limit the LATCH system to a combined weight of 67-70 pounds (rear facing is nearly identical at 65lbs), child AND seat. As of February 27 of last year, every car seat and associated manual will state the maximum child's weight for which the lower LATCH anchors can be used. Once you exceed this weight, LATCH goes away and, you guessed it - right back to the seatbelt.
A few months ago LATCH became a topic of debate regarding actual security of the carseat. The problem is there are so many variables and associated forces at work in the event of a collision that it's hard to standardize the anchor system. Different weight of car seats, seat design, and most of all - the child's weight.
Most carseats will have weight limitations for difference methods of securing the seat, including the anchors. Most manufactuers for front facing limit the LATCH system to a combined weight of 67-70 pounds (rear facing is nearly identical at 65lbs), child AND seat. As of February 27 of last year, every car seat and associated manual will state the maximum child's weight for which the lower LATCH anchors can be used. Once you exceed this weight, LATCH goes away and, you guessed it - right back to the seatbelt.