2016 last year of F-150 V-8
#31
Every year for the last 5 years, we've heard Ford is going to drop the V8 or "next year will be the last year for the V8". Ford is having great success with the 5.0 V8...I don't see it going anywhere in the near future. Yes, the Ecoboost architecture is hot right now at Ford and they are investing in it heavily. But, they also continue to invest in and improve the overall performance of the V8. Ford knows that they need to keep a V8 in the line up, for all of us "old schooler's". It may die someday...but that day is a ways off yet.
#32
I don't think so. One of the big reasons commercial operators choose diesel engines is operating cost. EcoBoost engines are great, but they're not delivering substantially better fuel economy than their N/A cousins.
I'd love to see an EcoBoost option in the Super Duty, but I don't think it'll ever completely replace the diesel option.
I'd love to see an EcoBoost option in the Super Duty, but I don't think it'll ever completely replace the diesel option.
That said... start adding up the costs. Oil changes are $50 versus $150-200. $10K savings up front. Typically lower repair bills (like the infamous $12K bad-load-of-fuel bill, plus 2 weeks out of service). And the new gas motors have substantially better longevity than motors of old... 250-300K in fleet service with proper maintenance would be no real surprise. If the motor was out there, putting pen to paper and running the numbers, I think you might be surprised at the (lack of) overall financial difference.
I'd still buy one in an up-level 150, just for bragging rights.
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Funny, people demand (and pay) that the work be removed from day to day life but then go to a gym and pay to...work.
#38
You can sell a new car to an old buyer, but you can't sell an old car to a new buyer. Younger folks (the ones who lease every three years, not buy a XL or XLT every 10-15 years) generally don't buy into the "no replacement for displacement". As it turns out there are lots of replacements. We didn't grow up only knowing performance as the sound of a V8. Simply put, we know Ford made the Ecoboost better than the V8, and we don't care. Sure, Ford could have put RD into the V8, but if the gains are better with the Ecoboost, why bother? Cummins has a nice 6 cylinder motor no one complains about (other than the truck its in), Hudson won NASCAR quite will with a straight six back when flatheads were still common (though to be fair it was a big displacement 6). It's about overall design and technology not just cylinder count. Don't get me wrong, I love V8s, and own a muscle car and a few few old trucks, and have more spare motors than I do cars (and I have 9 cars) sitting around my place. I'm pretty old school for being 32. I just don't see any value to getting a 5.0 in the truck.
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You can sell a new car to an old buyer, but you can't sell an old car to a new buyer. Younger folks (the ones who lease every three years, not buy a XL or XLT every 10-15 years) generally don't buy into the "no replacement for displacement". As it turns out there are lots of replacements. We didn't grow up only knowing performance as the sound of a V8. Simply put, we know Ford made the Ecoboost better than the V8, and we don't care. Sure, Ford could have put RD into the V8, but if the gains are better with the Ecoboost, why bother? Cummins has a nice 6 cylinder motor no one complains about (other than the truck its in), Hudson won NASCAR quite will with a straight six back when flatheads were still common (though to be fair it was a big displacement 6). It's about overall design and technology not just cylinder count. Don't get me wrong, I love V8s, and own a muscle car and a few few old trucks, and have more spare motors than I do cars (and I have 9 cars) sitting around my place. I'm pretty old school for being 32. I just don't see any value to getting a 5.0 in the truck.
The only work I've done on the engine is oil/filter changes, plugs/wires/coil pack, and intake gasket. It still runs great and I have no plans to get rid of it. So to me, I've gotten plenty of value out of the vehicle. Moral of the story: I would say, while one person doesn't see any value in getting a certain engine configuration/vehicle, another person may. There could indeed be value and in the long run they might be right.
#40
Every year for the last 5 years, we've heard Ford is going to drop the V8 or "next year will be the last year for the V8". Ford is having great success with the 5.0 V8...I don't see it going anywhere in the near future. Yes, the Ecoboost architecture is hot right now at Ford and they are investing in it heavily. But, they also continue to invest in and improve the overall performance of the V8. Ford knows that they need to keep a V8 in the line up, for all of us "old schooler's". It may die someday...but that day is a ways off yet.
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The first pickup I learned to drive in was a old '66 F100 with a straight 6 and a 3 on the tree.
#44
In my latest conversation with my future selling dealer he seemed to agree with everyone that we would be able to get the V-8 in 2017 of course he said he could not guarantee it but he had not heard any solid rumors of the V8 ending at least not yet. So Waiting for 17 to order.
Thanks all
Thanks all