1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Fleet 250/350 trucks - Any luck with them?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #31  
Old 02-19-2016, 06:01 PM
firebirdparts's Avatar
firebirdparts
firebirdparts is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Those trucks will all have an hour meter, so you should not speculate about the average speed or how much time the truck spent idling. You can just push the trip odometer button and get that info.

It's not mysterious. Certain years won't have idle hours, but just total engine hours.
 
  #32  
Old 02-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Latebloomer's Avatar
Latebloomer
Latebloomer is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gapman789
Holy moly....2001 and 12 posts....? nice.

Here ya go...right up the road from ya too.

Used Cars for Sale Frankfort KY 40601 Larry Stigers Equipment, Trailers, and Trucks
Yep,I've been burning this keyboard up...Story is:I have a "96" 7.3 thats never gave any trouble.You think I don't sweat up grading (JOKE)to a newer truck????
Tony
 
  #33  
Old 02-20-2016, 06:42 AM
gapman789's Avatar
gapman789
gapman789 is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by firebirdparts
Those trucks will all have an hour meter, so you should not speculate about the average speed or how much time the truck spent idling. You can just push the trip odometer button and get that info.

It's not mysterious. Certain years won't have idle hours, but just total engine hours.
What's an acceptable range of hours to be in? I didn't know there was an engine hour meter or idle hours meter until this thread.
 
  #34  
Old 02-20-2016, 07:09 AM
shot93's Avatar
shot93
shot93 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 49
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bought my 08 about 4 years ago. She gets the job done, wish she had a v10 or a diesel. It was a electric company truck. 80k when I bought it. No problems, when my boys are out of college I will get another diesel. I only tow about 8k, maybe once a month. It is an XL and it has been a good truck.
 
  #35  
Old 02-20-2016, 07:40 AM
Tom's Avatar
Tom
Tom is online now
Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Isanti, MN
Posts: 25,428
Received 672 Likes on 441 Posts
Originally Posted by gapman789
What's an acceptable range of hours to be in? I didn't know there was an engine hour meter or idle hours meter until this thread.
There's no acceptable range, but it describes how the truck was used.

If the truck has 100,000 miles and 2,000 hours, that means it was used almost exclusively on the highway and never idled. If it has the same 100,000 miles and 5,000 hours, it did a lot more low-speed operation and/or idling.

The '11+ trucks will show idle time after total engine hours. I've seen a Ford document equating an hour of idle time equivalent to ~30 miles of engine wear. I walked away from a truck with 2,400 idle hours, 3,500 total hours, and 48,000 miles.
 
  #36  
Old 02-20-2016, 08:05 AM
CampSpringsJohn's Avatar
CampSpringsJohn
CampSpringsJohn is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne, Ky
Posts: 14,067
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Larry Steigers has been business a long time. I wouldn't be afraid to buy something from him, but I don't believe they do any mechanical work there. So, what you buy from him, is just what he bought from Texas, or whatever state the truck came from. I would do a very thorough inspection, take it to somebody and put it on a lift, hook up a scanner, and see what's been done to it. Paul Miller Ford is in Lexington. They are very good with trucks. Allstate Ford is in Louisville. I can't think of anybody in the Frankfort area that I'd take it to for inspection. He gets those trucks cheap too. Don't be afraid to lowball him.
 
  #37  
Old 02-20-2016, 08:07 AM
gapman789's Avatar
gapman789
gapman789 is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tom
There's no acceptable range, but it describes how the truck was used.

If the truck has 100,000 miles and 2,000 hours, that means it was used almost exclusively on the highway and never idled. If it has the same 100,000 miles and 5,000 hours, it did a lot more low-speed operation and/or idling.

The '11+ trucks will show idle time after total engine hours. I've seen a Ford document equating an hour of idle time equivalent to ~30 miles of engine wear. I walked away from a truck with 2,400 idle hours, 3,500 total hours, and 48,000 miles.
Im trying to do the math here....so if 1 idle hr is approx 30 miles of engine wear , that would be 72,000 additional 'engine wear' miles on top of the 48,000 miles on the odometer.

You're saying that in mechanical terms, that truck engine had about 120,000 miles on it. But the suspension, tires, wheel bearings and all other moving parts still had 48,000 miles.
 
  #38  
Old 02-20-2016, 08:13 AM
gapman789's Avatar
gapman789
gapman789 is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CampSpringsJohn
Larry Steigers has been business a long time. I wouldn't be afraid to buy something from him, but I don't believe they do any mechanical work there. So, what you buy from him, is just what he bought from Texas, or whatever state the truck came from. I would do a very thorough inspection, take it to somebody and put it on a lift, hook up a scanner, and see what's been done to it. Paul Miller Ford is in Lexington. They are very good with trucks. Allstate Ford is in Louisville. I can't think of anybody in the Frankfort area that I'd take it to for inspection. He gets those trucks cheap too. Don't be afraid to lowball him.
That's good to hear.

He's got that "FIRM" written on the truck windows like I said, but he's got so many trucks, he's running out of room. You'd think he'd make some deals.

He's got well over $5,000,000 worth of used trucks....probably closer to $8M.
 
  #39  
Old 02-20-2016, 08:31 AM
Tom's Avatar
Tom
Tom is online now
Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Isanti, MN
Posts: 25,428
Received 672 Likes on 441 Posts
Originally Posted by gapman789
Im trying to do the math here....so if 1 idle hr is approx 30 miles of engine wear , that would be 72,000 additional 'engine wear' miles on top of the 48,000 miles on the odometer.

You're saying that in mechanical terms, that truck engine had about 120,000 miles on it. But the suspension, tires, wheel bearings and all other moving parts still had 48,000 miles.
Essentially, yes. I've never completely bought into that mileage number, but when I challenged someone on another forum they produced a Ford fleet document verifying that.

That truck in particular idled for the equivalent of 100 days straight. They wanted $28,500 for it with a Ford certified warranty. It was a rental truck out of Canada, presumably used on the oil fields, and the body panels didn't completely line up so I think it was in an accident. I wouldn't have paid more than $20-21K for that truck.
 
  #40  
Old 02-20-2016, 08:36 AM
gapman789's Avatar
gapman789
gapman789 is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tom
Essentially, yes. I've never completely bought into that mileage number, but when I challenged someone on another forum they produced a Ford fleet document verifying that.

That truck in particular idled for the equivalent of 100 days straight. They wanted $28,500 for it with a Ford certified warranty. It was a rental truck out of Canada, presumably used on the oil fields, and the body panels didn't completely line up so I think it was in an accident. I wouldn't have paid more than $20-21K for that truck.
I could see that truck sitting in an oil field in Canada where it's generally cold(er) with the supervisor staying warm n toasty, drinking his coffee all day long.
 
  #41  
Old 02-20-2016, 04:52 PM
Chuck's First Ford's Avatar
Chuck's First Ford
Chuck's First Ford is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: very South Texas
Posts: 4,392
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts
for mine...


140,000 miles in 4,100 hours = 35 miles per hour for all 140,000 miles ....so a freeway truck. and very little wear to the receiver hitch.. so little trailer towing.
but it did have possibly a ladder rack bolted to the box.


600 idle hours.. lots of lunches... not bad.
 
  #42  
Old 02-20-2016, 07:07 PM
firebirdparts's Avatar
firebirdparts
firebirdparts is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I bought a 2006 fleet truck, XL crew cab, from Texas Direct Auto with about 67,000 miles on it and 1100 engine hours. So it had averaged over 60 mph for its whole life, which is absolutely insane. It was repossessed in Galena Kansas, so I guess it was used to make service calls in parts of Kansas where there were no traffic lights whatsoever (i.e. most of Kansas).
 
  #43  
Old 02-20-2016, 07:12 PM
gapman789's Avatar
gapman789
gapman789 is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by firebirdparts
I bought a 2006 fleet truck, XL crew cab, from Texas Direct Auto with about 67,000 miles on it and 1100 engine hours. So it had averaged over 60 mph for its whole life, which is absolutely insane. It was repossessed in Galena Kansas, so I guess it was used to make service calls in parts of Kansas where there were no traffic lights whatsoever (i.e. most of Kansas).
How'd it work out for ya? Diesel, gasser?
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tabyers
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
4
10-20-2017 07:22 AM
TeamMudd
Excursion - King of SUVs
5
10-04-2014 12:00 PM
parkerparkerm
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
3
01-22-2014 10:45 PM
jeffdoerr
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel
4
07-09-2012 05:16 PM
Jspafford
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
6
09-23-2007 05:59 PM



Quick Reply: Fleet 250/350 trucks - Any luck with them?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.