PUTC: 2017 Super Duty Details
No way...
#78
09-25-2015, 07:37 PM
I think they might just pull it off.
Seriously, I don't think Ford was shooting from the hip when they did their research on this. Trucks keep them in business(I love my fusion too, though).
I for one look forward to seeing this truck EVERYWHERE.
Seriously, I don't think Ford was shooting from the hip when they did their research on this. Trucks keep them in business(I love my fusion too, though).
I for one look forward to seeing this truck EVERYWHERE.
#79
09-25-2015, 07:46 PM
#80
09-25-2015, 07:50 PM
Cargo Master
That it's I'm done as I'm sure many many Superduty owners will be. Don't tell us for 10 years that you won't produce a diesel F150 because you think it will hurt Superduty sales and then put an F150 cab on a Superduty frame and try and milk the saving from the Superduty owners. No market share is strong enough to bare the stupidity of the pencil pushers you allowed to make this decision. If you guys are planning for the impending market crash, well done because you won't have to wait. Your sales numbers are going to tank! I noticed the current models are all back listed from $50K-70k online. At least you'll be able to get top dollar out of the last of your 1st Gen 6.7 Superduties, cause your going to be eating Ram's shorts when people laugh you off for trying to sell the Superduties with F150 interiors. You better start planning for your next remodel year to be 2018! Kiss owning 60% of the HD market goodbye!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!
I would do the concussion protocol if I were you...
#81
09-25-2015, 08:01 PM
#82
09-25-2015, 08:05 PM
Going to an aluminum body it makes perfect sense to use the same cab.
Slightly narrower, and longer cab with a flatter rear floor, I don't think many are going to notice much size difference.
If the style split hadn't happened in '99 we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Ford enjoys an absolutely huge base of brand loyal customers. That isn't going to change. They will sell. They will maintain their market share.
The F150 is the best selling vehicle in America, and you think making the SuperDuty more like it is going to hurt sales? Think again. That may be precisely why they did it.
Yes the V10 will be missed by those who had one, BUT; the 6.2 with that trans and 4:30 gears equals it, and gets better mileage, albeit at a higher RPM. Many owners who don't want diesel are towing fairly heavy with it and are happy.
Slightly narrower, and longer cab with a flatter rear floor, I don't think many are going to notice much size difference.
If the style split hadn't happened in '99 we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Ford enjoys an absolutely huge base of brand loyal customers. That isn't going to change. They will sell. They will maintain their market share.
The F150 is the best selling vehicle in America, and you think making the SuperDuty more like it is going to hurt sales? Think again. That may be precisely why they did it.
Yes the V10 will be missed by those who had one, BUT; the 6.2 with that trans and 4:30 gears equals it, and gets better mileage, albeit at a higher RPM. Many owners who don't want diesel are towing fairly heavy with it and are happy.
#83
09-25-2015, 08:26 PM
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Sounds like the Ram guy that claims getting over 20mpg. lol Flash ain't got nothing to do with it. The DPF's plugging up and Ford refusing to replace them has everything to do with it.
Problem was I left all of that garbage on too long. I'll never make that mistake again. Hopefully I'll still get good life out of, but at least I've already started building the replacement. I love that it is way more dependable than any International that I've had, put the reverse engineering is unicorns and leprechauns! It all has cut diesel efficiency by 25-50%. These truck with 3.31 gears should be able to return 25 mpg all day with the amount of torque they are making and 6 speed transmissions. I have a 1986 Ranger Diesel that gets 39 mpg and my '06 MegaCab gets 22-25 all day doing 80 mph on 37"s. The Italian EcoDiesel even returns 30 mpg. Diehard that refuse to criticize at all are funny. I'm a Ford guy through and through the only reason I own the one Dodge is because it was the 1st MegaCab ever made and it was my buddy's that passed away and I plan on giving it to his son. Only reason my '74 crew is getting a Cummins is because it's next to impossible to run one of these sweet 6.7 Powerstrokes in there. A stand alone would be awesome.
Problem was I left all of that garbage on too long. I'll never make that mistake again. Hopefully I'll still get good life out of, but at least I've already started building the replacement. I love that it is way more dependable than any International that I've had, put the reverse engineering is unicorns and leprechauns! It all has cut diesel efficiency by 25-50%. These truck with 3.31 gears should be able to return 25 mpg all day with the amount of torque they are making and 6 speed transmissions. I have a 1986 Ranger Diesel that gets 39 mpg and my '06 MegaCab gets 22-25 all day doing 80 mph on 37"s. The Italian EcoDiesel even returns 30 mpg. Diehard that refuse to criticize at all are funny. I'm a Ford guy through and through the only reason I own the one Dodge is because it was the 1st MegaCab ever made and it was my buddy's that passed away and I plan on giving it to his son. Only reason my '74 crew is getting a Cummins is because it's next to impossible to run one of these sweet 6.7 Powerstrokes in there. A stand alone would be awesome.
And yes I'm one of those Ram guys....errrrr Ford guy that his truck makes respectable fuel economy. This trip was to the deer camp driving down I10 at ~70-75mph with some time driving around the property.
#84
09-25-2015, 09:21 PM
-The aluminum resists dents better than steel.
-The cab is reportedly slightly wider than the F150
-They haven't released details about the engine, so you can't say it doesn't have a 9th injector
-The aluminum resists dents better than steel
The V10 is only in the cab & chassis trucks, just like '11-'16
-The cab is reportedly slightly wider than the F150
-They haven't released details about the engine, so you can't say it doesn't have a 9th injector
-The aluminum resists dents better than steel
The V10 is only in the cab & chassis trucks, just like '11-'16
No 5.4.....Well I'm out. /s
#85
09-25-2015, 09:41 PM
PUTC: 2017 Super Duty Details
Originally Posted by fordmantpw
-The aluminum resists dents better than steel.
Originally Posted by fordmantpw
-The cab is reportedly slightly wider than the F150
Originally Posted by fordmantpw
-They haven't released details about the engine, so you can't say it doesn't have a 9th injector
Originally Posted by fordmantpw
-The aluminum resists dents better than steel
Originally Posted by fordmantpw
V10 is only in the cab & chassis trucks, just like '11-'16
#86
09-25-2015, 09:58 PM
"than the same piece of steel."
It is not the same. The aluminum used is a thicker and it is heat treated so it is more dent resistant than the steel. The people on f150forum that have dealt with it have been told by the PDR guys that fixing aluminum dents is literally no different than fixing steel. At the end of the day you should have less dents than on the steel.
It is not the same. The aluminum used is a thicker and it is heat treated so it is more dent resistant than the steel. The people on f150forum that have dealt with it have been told by the PDR guys that fixing aluminum dents is literally no different than fixing steel. At the end of the day you should have less dents than on the steel.
#87
09-25-2015, 10:32 PM
That it's I'm done as I'm sure many many Superduty owners will be. Don't tell us for 10 years that you won't produce a diesel F150 because you think it will hurt Superduty sales and then put an F150 cab on a Superduty frame and try and milk the saving from the Superduty owners. No market share is strong enough to bare the stupidity of the pencil pushers you allowed to make this decision. If you guys are planning for the impending market crash, well done because you won't have to wait. Your sales numbers are going to tank! I noticed the current models are all back listed from $50K-70k online. At least you'll be able to get top dollar out of the last of your 1st Gen 6.7 Superduties, cause your going to be eating Ram's shorts when people laugh you off for trying to sell the Superduties with F150 interiors. You better start planning for your next remodel year to be 2018! Kiss owning 60% of the HD market goodbye!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!
#88
09-25-2015, 11:36 PM
Senior User
Going to an aluminum body it makes perfect sense to use the same cab.
Slightly narrower, and longer cab with a flatter rear floor, I don't think many are going to notice much size difference.
If the style split hadn't happened in '99 we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Ford enjoys an absolutely huge base of brand loyal customers. That isn't going to change. They will sell. They will maintain their market share.
The F150 is the best selling vehicle in America, and you think making the SuperDuty more like it is going to hurt sales? Think again. That may be precisely why they did it.
Yes the V10 will be missed by those who had one, BUT; the 6.2 with that trans and 4:30 gears equals it, and gets better mileage, albeit at a higher RPM. Many owners who don't want diesel are towing fairly heavy with it and are happy.
Slightly narrower, and longer cab with a flatter rear floor, I don't think many are going to notice much size difference.
If the style split hadn't happened in '99 we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Ford enjoys an absolutely huge base of brand loyal customers. That isn't going to change. They will sell. They will maintain their market share.
The F150 is the best selling vehicle in America, and you think making the SuperDuty more like it is going to hurt sales? Think again. That may be precisely why they did it.
Yes the V10 will be missed by those who had one, BUT; the 6.2 with that trans and 4:30 gears equals it, and gets better mileage, albeit at a higher RPM. Many owners who don't want diesel are towing fairly heavy with it and are happy.
Actually F150 market sales have been tanking and Superduty with 40% of HD and 60% of Chassis Cab markets have been saving their a**. How did all those brand loyalists work out with the 6.0's and 6.4's? It didn't. F150 has not been the best selling truck since Ford started letting Toyota take market share. Now entering the EcoDiesel and Nissan XD they will loose more sales. Brand loyalists might be all they end up with.
#89
09-25-2015, 11:42 PM
Senior User
Rams say the same crap unless you hard calculate. Reflash so it appears your getting that good of MPG's lol. I love how this is the same group of guys that have been saying the spy photo posted for the past several months was a hoax. Enjoy your ricer truck if you can even afford one.
#90
09-26-2015, 12:14 AM
That it's I'm done as I'm sure many many Superduty owners will be. Don't tell us for 10 years that you won't produce a diesel F150 because you think it will hurt Superduty sales and then put an F150 cab on a Superduty frame and try and milk the saving from the Superduty owners. No market share is strong enough to bare the stupidity of the pencil pushers you allowed to make this decision. If you guys are planning for the impending market crash, well done because you won't have to wait. Your sales numbers are going to tank! I noticed the current models are all back listed from $50K-70k online. At least you'll be able to get top dollar out of the last of your 1st Gen 6.7 Superduties, cause your going to be eating Ram's shorts when people laugh you off for trying to sell the Superduties with F150 interiors. You better start planning for your next remodel year to be 2018! Kiss owning 60% of the HD market goodbye!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!
PS: Can you keep repeating the word NEW if it the exact same cab that is on the F150? Maybe it was well received because of how cheap the old F150 model was. It won't be well received by the people that enjoyed what they were getting for the extra $20-30K!