Rusty 2010 F-150 Lariat
#46
I was able to make an appointment and ask for help from the dealer today. Surprisingly, I got a call back already, but it was not good news. Ford won't cover anything, because of it being out of the rust through warranty. It really burns me up, seeing that I tried to tell them last year that it was a problem. Crystal, if you can be of any assistance, you can pm me about the situation.
#47
#48
Last night I got a photo of the root cause for my rust. You can see a rubber drain line. It should have been installed to end up where the finger is pointing and therefore direct the water to the drain. Instead, it was placed between the inner and outer rocker. So water would fill up there until it got high enough to flow through the hole. To add to the issue, if you park on an incline, the water would pool in the corner and never reach the drain!!!
#49
My truck has been a NC vehicle it's entire life so not exactly in the rust belt of the country. It's to the point now that I am doing research on how widespread this problem is and considering the possibility of speaking to an attorney to file a class action claim against Ford.
#50
#51
Sad things to come
I started a thread on this last year. I've found some info quite disturbing. Ford has conducted an internal investigation.
Turns out the ecoat on the inner rockers is falling off and causing it to rust from the inside out. All crew cabs from 2009-2014 in rust belt first then the rest. There are NO PROPER DRAINS. Ecoat falls off and clogs the minor separations in between the inner and outer rockers. I did get a good faith claim from ford for 2500. But the total bill to do it right will be $5700.
After my 2009 with 63k on the odometer has been at body shop for 3 weeks. 2.5 weeks it sat outside getting dirty, they started yesterday
Here is some pics to show you all what's to come
But good news! In the next year ford has developed a replacement aperture panel. At customers expense of course. It will cost you half the price of the whole aperture panel@ $400 each side. And guess what?? It has drain holes drilled in it too! I had body shop drill holes in mine. These pics were taken yesterday.
Hopefully total 4 weeks and $5700 later it will be good...
Zoom in this is the inner rocker exposed. The rust starts here
Close up inner rocker rusted so bad its got holes and unweldable in the rear. $1000 just to replace these pieces that are never seen
Turns out the ecoat on the inner rockers is falling off and causing it to rust from the inside out. All crew cabs from 2009-2014 in rust belt first then the rest. There are NO PROPER DRAINS. Ecoat falls off and clogs the minor separations in between the inner and outer rockers. I did get a good faith claim from ford for 2500. But the total bill to do it right will be $5700.
After my 2009 with 63k on the odometer has been at body shop for 3 weeks. 2.5 weeks it sat outside getting dirty, they started yesterday
Here is some pics to show you all what's to come
But good news! In the next year ford has developed a replacement aperture panel. At customers expense of course. It will cost you half the price of the whole aperture panel@ $400 each side. And guess what?? It has drain holes drilled in it too! I had body shop drill holes in mine. These pics were taken yesterday.
Hopefully total 4 weeks and $5700 later it will be good...
Zoom in this is the inner rocker exposed. The rust starts here
Close up inner rocker rusted so bad its got holes and unweldable in the rear. $1000 just to replace these pieces that are never seen
#52
So sorry, I forgot to mention.
I agree with the previous statement. My drivers side rear sunroof drain was in my rocker as well. However I saw the passenger rear drain was where it was intended to run out of the cab. Rust damage to passenger side was slightly less but still requires the inner rocker to be replaced. Also in the pics you can see where they cut on cab corner. In my case they needed to cut 4" higher to remove all the rust in there. I'm quite nervous on this outcome to say the least. Should be done by next weekend. That's if I accept their work. I'm kind of ****
I agree with the previous statement. My drivers side rear sunroof drain was in my rocker as well. However I saw the passenger rear drain was where it was intended to run out of the cab. Rust damage to passenger side was slightly less but still requires the inner rocker to be replaced. Also in the pics you can see where they cut on cab corner. In my case they needed to cut 4" higher to remove all the rust in there. I'm quite nervous on this outcome to say the least. Should be done by next weekend. That's if I accept their work. I'm kind of ****
#53
#54
It seems like the screws truck have more of an issue than the scab trucks, from all of the posts I've found. But I guarantee that my scab is rusting from the inside out also, so I don't know what the issue is here. My truck also (like others have said) leads a pretty easy life and is well cared for. No reason for the rust. I need to call the dealer back, as they had promised to get back with me about cost sharing, but never heard from them. I got an estimate from a local shop where they would cut out the rusted parts and use stainless as replacement. I sure would prefer that if I had a choice.
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#56
I find this interesting. We have a bunch of 2010 scabs at work that all look fine. None of them have ever seen the inside of a building except for an oil change. And all of them are parked down wind of the Salt domes. In the winter they are all covered by salt "dust" from the constant loading and unloading going on at the salt sheds.
I've always expected to see some rust showing up on these trucks, especially in light of all of this, but they all look really good so far.
Perhaps time will tell, but I trucks that lead "the good life" are showing problems already, I'm wondering why ours look good still.
Very curious indeed.
I've always expected to see some rust showing up on these trucks, especially in light of all of this, but they all look really good so far.
Perhaps time will tell, but I trucks that lead "the good life" are showing problems already, I'm wondering why ours look good still.
Very curious indeed.
#57
In light of what I've learned. I believe your work place trucks will be better off than my babied one. You don't have a sunroof I assume? Is it driven on highways in rain and snow? In my case what I thought was good maintenance may have inadvertently been my demise...
1 sunroof drain dumping into a place with no drain.
2 highway driving in the rain and salty slush getting flung in there.
And then
3 let's go to the car wash once a month and get one of those belly baths that clean all the salt off in the winter. Well that salt goes somewhere. And again with no drains it just compounded the problem.
I've driven plant trucks in a refinery. They never leave, never get washed and rarely go over 20 mph.
10 years old. Interior shot. Paint flat, no shine. Barely run with only 20-30k miles on them. But 0 rust.
One was actually a 2009 f150 extended cab fx2. Spotless for rust.
The lack of drainage imo is 100% the issue here. Who cares if the drains go into the rockers? If there were drains it would be a mute point. The water, salt, whatever would simply drain away.
I had a 79 mercury capri. Factory sunroof.
Drains went right down to rockers. No rust.
I did get a call from body shop today. Inner rockers will be in tomorrow.
He preceded to tell me that what they weld to is in fairly bad shape too. Still weldable but damaged. He said if untreated my floor pans and adjacent panels will definitely have rust holes in a year or 2.
Great.
I had already planned on fluid filming the entire underside on my truck.
Maybe too late for me. I honestly didn't think 2009 and up trucks had to worry about this.
My 2002 focus 140k pos. Starts every day. No rust.
Just crazy.
1 sunroof drain dumping into a place with no drain.
2 highway driving in the rain and salty slush getting flung in there.
And then
3 let's go to the car wash once a month and get one of those belly baths that clean all the salt off in the winter. Well that salt goes somewhere. And again with no drains it just compounded the problem.
I've driven plant trucks in a refinery. They never leave, never get washed and rarely go over 20 mph.
10 years old. Interior shot. Paint flat, no shine. Barely run with only 20-30k miles on them. But 0 rust.
One was actually a 2009 f150 extended cab fx2. Spotless for rust.
The lack of drainage imo is 100% the issue here. Who cares if the drains go into the rockers? If there were drains it would be a mute point. The water, salt, whatever would simply drain away.
I had a 79 mercury capri. Factory sunroof.
Drains went right down to rockers. No rust.
I did get a call from body shop today. Inner rockers will be in tomorrow.
He preceded to tell me that what they weld to is in fairly bad shape too. Still weldable but damaged. He said if untreated my floor pans and adjacent panels will definitely have rust holes in a year or 2.
Great.
I had already planned on fluid filming the entire underside on my truck.
Maybe too late for me. I honestly didn't think 2009 and up trucks had to worry about this.
My 2002 focus 140k pos. Starts every day. No rust.
Just crazy.
#58
I hate rust. My 2012 has the sunroof and all, It's driven in the snow and salt all the time, sits outside all the time and only get washed when it's warm enough to wash it outside. I hope I never have this problem.
A long time ago (about 30 years) I worked at a car wash. The system actually reused water, so all that salt that was washed off the car in front of you gets applied at high pressure onto your car. The undercarriage wash used that same recycled water. There were filters but they didn't filter the salt out, they basically filtered out dirt. Only the final rinse was clean water.
A long time ago (about 30 years) I worked at a car wash. The system actually reused water, so all that salt that was washed off the car in front of you gets applied at high pressure onto your car. The undercarriage wash used that same recycled water. There were filters but they didn't filter the salt out, they basically filtered out dirt. Only the final rinse was clean water.
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#60
Ok... So my take is, the main vulnerablty is the sunroof drain. I don't have a sunroof so I'm in the clear there. I have had several bad experences with sunroof leaks and drains in the past so I try to avoid them at all cost. I only have 14000 on my 2013 Scab so I will be watching closely.