3.5 Eco outpowers the SD's 6.2L?
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Stock Ecoboost engine can run full tilt all day. So can other engines. Nothing unique about that.
It is not the engine that differentiates tow ratings, it is the vehicle it is in. If I remember right, Tom's F150 Ecoboost with something like 15K pounds ran away from a V10, tuned 6.0L Powerstroke, and a 6.4L Powerstroke. No doubt the Ecoboost can run. But at the end of the day it is resting in an F150 chassis and that defines the capability of the truck.
Can the Ecoboost win a towing drag race against the 6.2L? Yep. Can an F150, regardless of engine, out tow a Superduty, regardless of engine? Nope.
It is not the engine that differentiates tow ratings, it is the vehicle it is in. If I remember right, Tom's F150 Ecoboost with something like 15K pounds ran away from a V10, tuned 6.0L Powerstroke, and a 6.4L Powerstroke. No doubt the Ecoboost can run. But at the end of the day it is resting in an F150 chassis and that defines the capability of the truck.
Can the Ecoboost win a towing drag race against the 6.2L? Yep. Can an F150, regardless of engine, out tow a Superduty, regardless of engine? Nope.
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But to directly answer the question... yes
There are many differences in a truck more than the engine. The transmission is probably the most important. Frame, suspension, weight balance, tires, axle width, etc all effect a trucks performance. All the things that make a Super Duty awesome for hauling will hurt it in a drag race. Depends what you want to do with a truck.
There are many differences in a truck more than the engine. The transmission is probably the most important. Frame, suspension, weight balance, tires, axle width, etc all effect a trucks performance. All the things that make a Super Duty awesome for hauling will hurt it in a drag race. Depends what you want to do with a truck.
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Well I'm looking at it as such that I don't tow for a living, will occasionally tow within the truck's rated capacity (such as towing a boat maybe 10 times a year), & possibly a future tag camper a few times a year,
with the truck being a daily driver the rest of the time.
I own a SD & have for 10 years now but given the above facts of my position in life now it seems as though an F-150 is more than the right tool for the job.... Which is a drastic departure from the way I've always looked at F-150s prior to today's version.
with the truck being a daily driver the rest of the time.
I own a SD & have for 10 years now but given the above facts of my position in life now it seems as though an F-150 is more than the right tool for the job.... Which is a drastic departure from the way I've always looked at F-150s prior to today's version.
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Stock Ecoboost engine can run full tilt all day. So can other engines. Nothing unique about that.
It is not the engine that differentiates tow ratings, it is the vehicle it is in. If I remember right, Tom's F150 Ecoboost with something like 15K pounds ran away from a V10, tuned 6.0L Powerstroke, and a 6.4L Powerstroke. No doubt the Ecoboost can run. But at the end of the day it is resting in an F150 chassis and that defines the capability of the truck.
Can the Ecoboost win a towing drag race against the 6.2L? Yep. Can an F150, regardless of engine, out tow a Superduty, regardless of engine? Nope.
It is not the engine that differentiates tow ratings, it is the vehicle it is in. If I remember right, Tom's F150 Ecoboost with something like 15K pounds ran away from a V10, tuned 6.0L Powerstroke, and a 6.4L Powerstroke. No doubt the Ecoboost can run. But at the end of the day it is resting in an F150 chassis and that defines the capability of the truck.
Can the Ecoboost win a towing drag race against the 6.2L? Yep. Can an F150, regardless of engine, out tow a Superduty, regardless of engine? Nope.
It did. I drove Toms with the trailer attached as well. The concern though is sustained temps if you tow too heavy. I think his coolant got up to 240 in short order...without the capacity to deal with that.
Stay in the limits of the F150 and it will be fine.
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But, if the Ecoboost had a larger oil sump and a higher volume cooling system, this could be negated. The superduty simply has a front end designed to house a 6.7L diesel and therefore the 6.2L will cool itself just fine.
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I know the 6.2 is a tough motor but I also know having turbo power is awesome when traversing grades at high altitude. Gotta say the F-150 is at the top of my list right now for my next rig (coming in the spring). The fuel economy & turbo power combo compared to the gas option on the SD is impressive.
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Well I'm looking at it as such that I don't tow for a living, will occasionally tow within the truck's rated capacity (such as towing a boat maybe 10 times a year), & possibly a future tag camper a few times a year,
with the truck being a daily driver the rest of the time.
I own a SD & have for 10 years now but given the above facts of my position in life now it seems as though an F-150 is more than the right tool for the job.... Which is a drastic departure from the way I've always looked at F-150s prior to today's version.
with the truck being a daily driver the rest of the time.
I own a SD & have for 10 years now but given the above facts of my position in life now it seems as though an F-150 is more than the right tool for the job.... Which is a drastic departure from the way I've always looked at F-150s prior to today's version.
Spot on Scott, I remember the entire story as it unfolded.
But, if the Ecoboost had a larger oil sump and a higher volume cooling system, this could be negated. The superduty simply has a front end designed to house a 6.7L diesel and therefore the 6.2L will cool itself just fine.
But, if the Ecoboost had a larger oil sump and a higher volume cooling system, this could be negated. The superduty simply has a front end designed to house a 6.7L diesel and therefore the 6.2L will cool itself just fine.
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For some info on all the engines and th F150 eco see here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-videos.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-videos.html
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For some info on all the engines and th F150 eco see here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-videos.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-videos.html
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I know the 6.2 is a tough motor but I also know having turbo power is awesome when traversing grades at high altitude. Gotta say the F-150 is at the top of my list right now for my next rig (coming in the spring). The fuel economy & turbo power combo compared to the gas option on the SD is impressive.
If your looking for a softer ride with sports car like power with the capabilities of a truck, you'll be happy with the F150 with EcoBoost. They are awesome trucks (just not what I was looking for).
Last edited by 1medic; 06-14-2015 at 12:53 AM. Reason: More info.
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Sounds like your ready for a change. Your right the F150 with EcoBoost is impressive. I was driving a 13' CCSB 4x4 for the past year. I now drive a 15' F250 CCSB 4x4. The choice for me had to do with wanting more comfortable driving position (seats sit higher in F250). Improved visibility and more of a "truck" feel when driving also could be called "feeling sure footed" (especially when towing heavy).
If your looking for a softer ride with sports car like power with the capabilities of a truck, you'll be happy with the F150 with EcoBoost. They are awesome trucks (just not what I was looking for).
If your looking for a softer ride with sports car like power with the capabilities of a truck, you'll be happy with the F150 with EcoBoost. They are awesome trucks (just not what I was looking for).
So, I plan to get rid of my small commuter car & my SD and consolidate into 1 vehicle (a truck), which I'll use as my DD & for whatever towing needs I have. There's no way I'd want to have a SD for a DD in the urban area where I live. Truth be told, if FoMoCo still sold a Ranger here in the U.S. I'd probably be on one as my next ride. As it is now, I'm torn between going with the newly redesigned Tacoma or the F-150 option. I realize these 2 are far from apples-to-apples, but each has their advantages to me in my current environment.