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Old 05-03-2015, 10:40 PM
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Hey yall, I have a 1992 f350 idi with 208 on it. This week I will be doing valve cover gaskets, coolant flush (coolant flush takes how many gallons), oil change, thermostat, and a starter. I've only owned the truck for a about 6k. In that time I've had the glow plugs and relay replaced, compression test (all good), idler and tension pulley replaced. I do need a new injection pump, after that though I will be looking into a turbo. My question is, can I pull a turbo setup off say a 1995 powerstroke from a junkyard and fit it to my truck? How hard is that? What's the process? And are there any real gains other than sound to straight pipe her? This is my first diesel and I am learning a lot quickly as parts fail lol. The truck was an Arizona truck its whole life and bringing it out to Colorado has not been pretty. Especially this past winter. But it's warming up and time to her right. Sorry for the jumbled thread. Thx in advance for any help and advice. Also, has anyone ever heard of or used R&D idi? They have an injection pump for 350. Vs the 800 or whatever new from dealer or auto parts store. If you've used them feedback would be great.
 
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welcome to the IDI diesel forums.
coolant capacity is between 7 and 8 gallons. so after a flush, i would add 4 gallons of straight coolant to go with the water in the block, and top off with water.
make sure the thermostat only comes from a ford or international dealership parts counter, aftermarket parts store t-stats do not work in our engines, just like aftermarket glow plugs don't work.
a powerstroke turbo is not a "bolt on" and everything needs to be fabricated to meke it work. in the long run, it will cost you more to make it work than it would to just buy a good used banks or ats unit.
straight pipe will let the turbo spool faster. but is is also louder.
 
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Old 05-04-2015, 06:34 AM
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and I think the only one TJC missed was yes, R&D is a worthy dealer to contact.
 
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do not buy anything from places named diesel care or pensacola diesel.
if you searched e-bay they are about the same price.
after you get your IP in, make sure to time it!
and leave the IP gear housing on when swapping pumps.

if you want to go ahead and try the powerstroke turbo,
i would go with a 99+ wastegated turbo.
lots of fab work involved.
up pipes, down pipe, turbo pedestal, & oil lines.
it can be done, but alot of work.

there is a banks kit on e-bay, but it looks like its missing a few parts.
search your local craigslist, or the market place here.

good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
welcome to the IDI diesel forums.
coolant capacity is between 7 and 8 gallons. so after a flush, i would add 4 gallons of straight coolant to go with the water in the block, and top off with water.
make sure the thermostat only comes from a ford or international dealership parts counter, aftermarket parts store t-stats do not work in our engines, just like aftermarket glow plugs don't work.
a powerstroke turbo is not a "bolt on" and everything needs to be fabricated to meke it work. in the long run, it will cost you more to make it work than it would to just buy a good used banks or ats unit.
straight pipe will let the turbo spool faster. but is is also louder.

Thx a lot. I can't remember if I was able to get a motorcraft t-stat or not if I didn't I will return and get motorcraft for sure. I will look into the ats and banks turbos. I obviously need to get everything else fixed and my injection pump installed. After that turbo time and exhaust.
 
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Originally Posted by IDIoit
do not buy anything from places named diesel care or pensacola diesel.
if you searched e-bay they are about the same price.
after you get your IP in, make sure to time it!
and leave the IP gear housing on when swapping pumps.

if you want to go ahead and try the powerstroke turbo,
i would go with a 99+ wastegated turbo.
lots of fab work involved.
up pipes, down pipe, turbo pedestal, & oil lines.
it can be done, but alot of work.

there is a banks kit on e-bay, but it looks like its missing a few parts.
search your local craigslist, or the market place here.

good luck!
Sounds like it's best to just buy a new bolt on type of setup. Thx
 
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:09 AM
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and I think the only one TJC missed was yes, R&D is a worthy dealer to contact.
Thank you for the input.
 
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1992 f350 4x4 7.3
Sounds like it's best to just buy a new bolt on type of setup. Thx
best? i disagree.
easiest? for sure!

i have a OEM 093 system on my truck.
ive found them for around 3-400 bucks.
the bad part about this, is that some will work, but its best to have the turbo rebuilt.
typ4, a member here is rebuilding one of mine right now.
with a WW2,
550(ish) to rebuild,
400 for new castings that will actually seal
200 for the WW2
there may be cheaper options out there.

no matter the project, things get expensive quick!!!
but if you throw a unknown turbo on there, you run the risk of things coming apart.
wouldnt want a compressor wheel having lunch with your valves or pistons!
 
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92, where are you in CO? I am in Lakewood and can help you out with a lot of this stuff. I have a timing meter and I even have an extra 093 sitting around, but with three of these trucks, I'm not going to just give it away! PM me if you want to talk.
 
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I was where you are with one of my many idi trucks. I bought an ATS unit off ebay for 500. with all the necessary items. I lucked out the turbo was smooth with little or no play. the only issue I had was I had to beat the hell out of the passenger side transmission hump of the firewall to get the downpipe to clear. She made an honest 7lbs of boost. big difference considering the e4od tranny. loved that truck but was searching for 4x4.
always use zd9 glow plugs....always.
good luck with her!
 
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92, where are you in CO? I am in Lakewood and can help you out with a lot of this stuff. I have a timing meter and I even have an extra 093 sitting around, but with three of these trucks, I'm not going to just give it away! PM me if you want to talk.

I don't know how to pm on here. But I live down in penrose and work in the springs. I could definitely use some help when I do that injector pump. Just did the starter today. Valve cover gaskets, coolant flush and thermostat tomorrow. Are you apart of CDC??
 
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Originally Posted by boots6868
I was where you are with one of my many idi trucks. I bought an ATS unit off ebay for 500. with all the necessary items. I lucked out the turbo was smooth with little or no play. the only issue I had was I had to beat the hell out of the passenger side transmission hump of the firewall to get the downpipe to clear. She made an honest 7lbs of boost. big difference considering the e4od tranny. loved that truck but was searching for 4x4.
always use zd9 glow plugs....always.
good luck with her!

I have the e40D in my truck. She's 4x4. How did the tranny handle the extra power with the turbo?
 
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:00 AM
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92, I got your PM, but it was in an unusual format. I am off to celebrate my 51st b-day tomorrow skiing at A-basin, so I will get back to you some time this weekend. For the record, the E40d will handle much more power than an IDI could ever put out, it's problem is with the electronics. What Boots meant, is that in the engine compartment, there is just not enough room for the turbo downpipe to fit, so you need to "massage" the firewall and trans hump with a BFH to make it fit.
 
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92, I got your PM, but it was in an unusual format. I am off to celebrate my 51st b-day tomorrow skiing at A-basin, so I will get back to you some time this weekend. For the record, the E40d will handle much more power than an IDI could ever put out, it's problem is with the electronics. What Boots meant, is that in the engine compartment, there is just not enough room for the turbo downpipe to fit, so you need to "massage" the firewall and trans hump with a BFH to make it fit.
Ok thank you. That makes more sense. And Happy birthday.
 
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do not add water to your truck. ever... purchase the correct coolant for your year.. do not use extended life coolants like dexcool as OAT type coolants Eat lead solder. purchase ready to use coolant as it is manufactured with distilled water in many places around the country have differing mineral content it tap water that can form deposits in your engine.. your engine requires SCA's special coolant additives that protect from a type of erosion of the cylinder wall that happens in All diesels ruining the block and or forcing the block to be sleeved I use fleet charge..
 


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