Running like garbage
#1
Running like garbage
My 92 f150 with the 302 is not running right. I have codes 173 and 334. I tested the egr and evolve and everything was within spec. 334 is egr closed voltage is higher than expected. I think chiton said under .67v is good I tested mine at .63v. My fuel pressure is 40psi idling, 48 with the vacuum line disconnected. Connected again back to 40. Shut it off and it rose to 44 and after 5 min it still read 44psi.
I disconnected the iac and nothing happened. Idle was still a bit over 1000rpm. Replaced it with one out of the junkyard and no difference. Something is not right here.
When I start the truck cold in the morning it spits and stutters for 30 seconds then snaps out of it. And Obviously it is running really rich. At about 35 mph it surges and bucks bath and forth. Which to me is egr. I'm confused at this because it tested good. Also when I drop into gear the rpms drop to normal but put back into park it idles back up.
New parts include tps, ect, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, thermostat, and I swapped out a used iac
Does anyone have any ideas?
I disconnected the iac and nothing happened. Idle was still a bit over 1000rpm. Replaced it with one out of the junkyard and no difference. Something is not right here.
When I start the truck cold in the morning it spits and stutters for 30 seconds then snaps out of it. And Obviously it is running really rich. At about 35 mph it surges and bucks bath and forth. Which to me is egr. I'm confused at this because it tested good. Also when I drop into gear the rpms drop to normal but put back into park it idles back up.
New parts include tps, ect, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, thermostat, and I swapped out a used iac
Does anyone have any ideas?
#3
I replaced mine, it was terrible, took it back and got another. This one test out perfectly within spec. Is there someway to adjust it? I can't get the rpm change when I unplug the iac like I used to. Do I have to bite the built and drop 65$ on a new iac?
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#7
Here is a thread I found for code 334
trouble code 334 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans\
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ough-idle.html
trouble code 334 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans\
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ough-idle.html
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#8
The O2 sensor is next on he list
#9
Here is a thread I found for code 334
trouble code 334 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans\
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ough-idle.html
trouble code 334 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans\
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ough-idle.html
#10
I don't know, "but it seems you have a good TPS by what readings your getting."
Here is a link I found on the Tad:
TAD Solenoid Function Testing - FSB Forums
On my 92' I currently have the Upper Tab and Tad vacuum line connectors pluged...For my EGR I have a block off plate, "piece of thin sheet metal." Between the EGR valve and the upper intake manifold. Smog pump removed and heads and Y-pipe plugged. Yes the truck runs better and I seem to get better gas mileage the way it is now. 18-20 mpg highway if I baby it. Most of the time I still run around 15 mpg, "lead foot syndrome."
Here is a link I found on the Tad:
TAD Solenoid Function Testing - FSB Forums
On my 92' I currently have the Upper Tab and Tad vacuum line connectors pluged...For my EGR I have a block off plate, "piece of thin sheet metal." Between the EGR valve and the upper intake manifold. Smog pump removed and heads and Y-pipe plugged. Yes the truck runs better and I seem to get better gas mileage the way it is now. 18-20 mpg highway if I baby it. Most of the time I still run around 15 mpg, "lead foot syndrome."
#11
Copied and paste from another post on different forum:
For the 332, the older systems had a position sensor on top of the EGR valve. The newer systems used some kind of differential pressure measurement. Not sure which system you have - but this is one direction I would head for - IIRC - the differential pressure systems had problems with tubing plugging up. The other thing to check is the valve control solenoid - just follow the vacuum tubing from the EGR valve. I've had experience with this solenoid plugging and not able to move the EGR valve around to the computer's liking.
Any possibility that the EGR system is pulling in air instead of exhaust gas, like with a cracked tube or loose fitting? Would tend to screw up the expected / learned fuel-to-air ratios as well as make thing idle a bit high.
For the 332, the older systems had a position sensor on top of the EGR valve. The newer systems used some kind of differential pressure measurement. Not sure which system you have - but this is one direction I would head for - IIRC - the differential pressure systems had problems with tubing plugging up. The other thing to check is the valve control solenoid - just follow the vacuum tubing from the EGR valve. I've had experience with this solenoid plugging and not able to move the EGR valve around to the computer's liking.
Any possibility that the EGR system is pulling in air instead of exhaust gas, like with a cracked tube or loose fitting? Would tend to screw up the expected / learned fuel-to-air ratios as well as make thing idle a bit high.
#14
40 psi idling and 48 psi with vacuum line disconnected is to high. That is your running rich problem.
I would double check those numbers. You shouldn't be any higher than 35 idling and 40 with vacuum line disconnected. Check to see if fuel is leaking from the FPR when you turn the key to ON and then again a few times, without starting the engine.
I would double check those numbers. You shouldn't be any higher than 35 idling and 40 with vacuum line disconnected. Check to see if fuel is leaking from the FPR when you turn the key to ON and then again a few times, without starting the engine.
#15
40 psi idling and 48 psi with vacuum line disconnected is to high. That is your running rich problem.
I would double check those numbers. You shouldn't be any higher than 35 idling and 40 with vacuum line disconnected. Check to see if fuel is leaking from the FPR when you turn the key to ON and then again a few times, without starting the engine.
I would double check those numbers. You shouldn't be any higher than 35 idling and 40 with vacuum line disconnected. Check to see if fuel is leaking from the FPR when you turn the key to ON and then again a few times, without starting the engine.