Recall 2011-2014 F250-F550 6.7L 14E03
#31
Here is what I was told, the PCM flash will lower the temps that the regen system reach during a regen cycle. This will keep EGTs lower and not cause over heating damage to the sensors reducing sensor life. A longer regen was not mentioned, but common sense would say, at least to me that with lower temps the regen will require more time to do an efficient burn.
My source also shows that the recall release will be dated 2/6/2015 however the dealerships should currently have the program in hand to do the flash as needed.
My source also shows that the recall release will be dated 2/6/2015 however the dealerships should currently have the program in hand to do the flash as needed.
Hmmm, maybe some root cause analysis info, maybe the temps are causing the sensor failure.
#32
Jon, great info but I would add one thing. Most all dealerships have a laptop for the diesel techs to use for their ids. Most all diesel techs are not very good about updating, mostly because it takes many hours, which they do not have.
Not slamming, these techs work their butts off but it's likely going to take some time for everyone to get on the same page.
Not slamming, these techs work their butts off but it's likely going to take some time for everyone to get on the same page.
#33
#34
So, based on responses I'm guessing my rig already has the lower temp flash from the factory ('14 Job 2 I assume from the build date). I have noticed that my regen temps aren't as high as in my 2011...but I thought it was just coincidence or driving habits changing. Perhaps the factory has been testing these parameters on the '14 and up trucks and now has enough evidence that a lower burn temp will properly regen the DPF. Although, I don't get as good MPG in my '14 as I did in my '11.
#36
Do the regens last longer with the lower temps for those that have the newer years? Seems like they would.
On one hand, if this flash changes the programming to limp mode instead of immediate shutdown, that would be nice to have. On the other, I'm a bit wary of flashes because one of the last few I received (2012 ish) reduced MPG by 1 and regens don't last as long so it doesn't clean as well.
No notification for my 2011 job1 yet. I don't think I'll rush over there either.
On one hand, if this flash changes the programming to limp mode instead of immediate shutdown, that would be nice to have. On the other, I'm a bit wary of flashes because one of the last few I received (2012 ish) reduced MPG by 1 and regens don't last as long so it doesn't clean as well.
No notification for my 2011 job1 yet. I don't think I'll rush over there either.
#38
Do the regens last longer with the lower temps for those that have the newer years? Seems like they would.
On one hand, if this flash changes the programming to limp mode instead of immediate shutdown, that would be nice to have. On the other, I'm a bit wary of flashes because one of the last few I received (2012 ish) reduced MPG by 1 and regens don't last as long so it doesn't clean as well.
No notification for my 2011 job1 yet. I don't think I'll rush over there either.
On one hand, if this flash changes the programming to limp mode instead of immediate shutdown, that would be nice to have. On the other, I'm a bit wary of flashes because one of the last few I received (2012 ish) reduced MPG by 1 and regens don't last as long so it doesn't clean as well.
No notification for my 2011 job1 yet. I don't think I'll rush over there either.
Yep, I lost about ~2.5 mpg with that one too, but the thought of family getting stranded when truck shuts down I think is going to make me get the reflash very soon.
#40
I'm due for service in early March and I will take my truck in then after I read more about the recall. I have the spare EGT sensors and Code Scan capability but I tow a lot of miles to not so service friendly highways and this recall will if anything take some doubt of being dead in the water with the 36 ft 5th wheel straddling the fog line.
#41
Regens on my 2011 lasted close to 30 min at 60-70mph. Regens were 400-500 miles apart. I got 18-20 mpg at those speeds as well.
My 2015 regens the same length of time, but I can only get 15-17 mpg at the same HWY speeds. Regens started out about every 150 miles. Now with 14,000 they have spread out, have not got a good number yet as I've been having a bit of a hard time getting enough hwy time to complete one then check again.
Interested in this recall though, if it would allow a limp mode or light instead of a dead truck due to a faulty sensor.
My 2015 regens the same length of time, but I can only get 15-17 mpg at the same HWY speeds. Regens started out about every 150 miles. Now with 14,000 they have spread out, have not got a good number yet as I've been having a bit of a hard time getting enough hwy time to complete one then check again.
Interested in this recall though, if it would allow a limp mode or light instead of a dead truck due to a faulty sensor.
#42
Regens on my 2011 lasted close to 30 min at 60-70mph. Regens were 400-500 miles apart. I got 18-20 mpg at those speeds as well.
My 2015 regens the same length of time, but I can only get 15-17 mpg at the same HWY speeds. Regens started out about every 150 miles. Now with 14,000 they have spread out, have not got a good number yet as I've been having a bit of a hard time getting enough hwy time to complete one then check again.
Interested in this recall though, if it would allow a limp mode or light instead of a dead truck due to a faulty sensor.
My 2015 regens the same length of time, but I can only get 15-17 mpg at the same HWY speeds. Regens started out about every 150 miles. Now with 14,000 they have spread out, have not got a good number yet as I've been having a bit of a hard time getting enough hwy time to complete one then check again.
Interested in this recall though, if it would allow a limp mode or light instead of a dead truck due to a faulty sensor.
#43
My 2015 gave me 12mpg towing a small 8'x16' cargo trailer on a 1,000 mile trip two days ago. Identical to the 2011 I had. I filled up with 86 gal of diesel last Sunday, just filled the tank yesterday after having driven just a hair over 1,000 miles with the trailer.
My truck has 12,500 miles on it, this month I have towed my bigger trailer just over 3,000 miles with an mpg average of 9.8. My mpg for the month of January has been slightly improving with a total of nearly 6,000 miles since December 29, 2014.
I think the combination of nearly new trucks, inconsistent diesel winter blends, and harsh cold weather the first week of January has made us all a little uneasy. Get some miles and wear on those 2015 trucks and re evaluate.....
We very well could be seeing less economy but it will take some time yet to collect data.
My truck has 12,500 miles on it, this month I have towed my bigger trailer just over 3,000 miles with an mpg average of 9.8. My mpg for the month of January has been slightly improving with a total of nearly 6,000 miles since December 29, 2014.
I think the combination of nearly new trucks, inconsistent diesel winter blends, and harsh cold weather the first week of January has made us all a little uneasy. Get some miles and wear on those 2015 trucks and re evaluate.....
We very well could be seeing less economy but it will take some time yet to collect data.
#44
So, based on responses I'm guessing my rig already has the lower temp flash from the factory ('14 Job 2 I assume from the build date). I have noticed that my regen temps aren't as high as in my 2011...but I thought it was just coincidence or driving habits changing. Perhaps the factory has been testing these parameters on the '14 and up trucks and now has enough evidence that a lower burn temp will properly regen the DPF. Although, I don't get as good MPG in my '14 as I did in my '11.
A little off topic, but while checking for the FSA for my trucks vin, another FSA came up on the registered Ford site. It did say there is a new flash up grade for my trucks 'mysync.
I downloaded it (almost 600mb to a usb drive) but have not flashed it to my truck yet.
Gen2v3713build14122updatepackageNARev5zip
A little hesitant since my experience with any device "upgraded software" is less than stellar.
This new to me mysync flash will only give me a mute button for my nav. Along with some European map features..?
My nav and mysync seem to working very well for me now with the new sd card I got about a month or 2 after I purchased the truck. That new sd card made a huge difference in the nav and mysync performance for me.
My regens are often 100-150 miles apart around town. Hyw, not towing, is closer to 200-300 miles between regens. My regens last about 10 miles on the hyw. I've seen temps as high as 1578° during regens, on the torque app.
My mpg seem to go down 6-8 when in regen, hard to say exactly how much that effects the overall mpg since the regen frequency is hard to pin down to a regular schedule. On a recent 400 mile trip, without towing, my overall mpg was right on 18 going 70mph average. IIRR truck did 2.5 regens,lol. I'd imagine it would break 20mpg with no regens...?
jmo
#45
A little off topic, but while checking for the FSA for my trucks vin, another FSA came up on the registered Ford site. It did say there is a new flash up grade for my trucks 'mysync.
I downloaded it (almost 600mb to a usb drive) but have not flashed it to my truck yet.
Gen2v3713build14122updatepackageNARev5zip
A little hesitant since my experience with any device "upgraded software" is less than stellar.
This new to me mysync flash will only give me a mute button for my nav. Along with some European map features..?
I downloaded it (almost 600mb to a usb drive) but have not flashed it to my truck yet.
Gen2v3713build14122updatepackageNARev5zip
A little hesitant since my experience with any device "upgraded software" is less than stellar.
This new to me mysync flash will only give me a mute button for my nav. Along with some European map features..?
As far as regens, temps and MPG my results probably won't be as indicative as others. I drive very little as I work from home (just to the daycare once a day). A regen temp north of 1500 degrees over about 10 miles is inline with what my 2011 would do. My '14 doesn't get that hot per the Torque app, but I really don't have the opportunity to go WOT on a freeway here in the 'burbs. With our rigs having similar build dates and yours seemingly having the same regens as an '11 model I'm confused as to why earlier models get an update and what the update addresses in pre-2014 models that is different in the 2014 and newer rigs.