DPF Cleaning every 50 to 60 miles??
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DPF Cleaning every 50 to 60 miles??
I have a 2008 F250 Lariat 4X4 with a 6.4 Powerstroke engine. The truck just turned 40K miles and strict maintenance has been performed religiously since I bought new. The truck is not a Walmart runner and has been used exclusively to pull a 13K pound fifth wheel travel trailer probably 2/3rds of the miles showing. During a recent 400 mile round trip over the hills in eastern TN the truck started “Cleaning Exhaust Filter” about every 50 to 60 miles traveled. The cleaning would continue for about 20 miles and then repeat again within the next 60 miles. Took it to my local small town dealership today and they found “no codes” stored in the computer. They kept the computer hooked up and drove the truck to see if anything would show up and it went back in to “Filter Cleaning” as soon as they left the dealership. They contacted Ford for advice and were told that pulling the heavy loads over the hills would cause the DPF to regen more frequently and frequent regens may be normal. The dealership is familiar with my truck, how I use and maintain it and didn’t agree with Ford’s "no advice". The tech said he had seen this problem once before and then was advised to change out the “Mass Flow Sensor” even though it was showing normal on the computer. He installed a new “Mass Flow Sensor” and the computer then indicated that the DPF was clean. My dealership told me drive the truck for a couple of weeks to make sure the fix corrects the problem before paying the bill (no warranty). I drove the truck solo, no trailer, up into the mountains today and put about 100 miles on the engine. As of this writing no “Filter Cleaning” has occurred. I’ll be pulling my trailer next week on a short 300 mile pull, we will see if I get normal regens like I did before this problem started, aprox every 200 miles, give or take. Have any of you guys heard of this problem and fix? Any other suggestions since no codes are showing up?
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Correct on the assumption of a sensor issue.
If no oil growth, no sweet smell out the exhaust and no low coolant then I would opt to a sensor for the DPF as an issue.
Replace the one in front of the DPF. See what that does for you. Spray the old one down with some pb blaster in advance.
If no oil growth, no sweet smell out the exhaust and no low coolant then I would opt to a sensor for the DPF as an issue.
Replace the one in front of the DPF. See what that does for you. Spray the old one down with some pb blaster in advance.
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I may be wrong, but I thought most of the sensors in and around the DPF measured temperature only? I haven't had a DPF in 93,000 miles so I may be off.
Most of the cases in which a sensor in the exhaust has failed, it's caused immediate limp mode with engine shut down. The issue would be whatever sensor senses pressures.
Most of the cases in which a sensor in the exhaust has failed, it's caused immediate limp mode with engine shut down. The issue would be whatever sensor senses pressures.
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I may be wrong, but I thought most of the sensors in and around the DPF measured temperature only? I haven't had a DPF in 93,000 miles so I may be off.
Most of the cases in which a sensor in the exhaust has failed, it's caused immediate limp mode with engine shut down. The issue would be whatever sensor senses pressures.
Most of the cases in which a sensor in the exhaust has failed, it's caused immediate limp mode with engine shut down. The issue would be whatever sensor senses pressures.
Something about the sensors though may lead to excessive regens.
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Thanks Senix for the reply. I did ask the Tech at the dealership about the sensors associated with the DPF differential pressures and he said they checked OK. Would this front DPF sensor check OK and still be giving false readings? What do you think about the Tech changing the Mass Flow Sensor? He told me the DPF indicated "clean" after he changed it out. So far after a 100 miles of TN hill driving no cleaning has occurred with the new Mass Flow Sensor. Will try and drive more before my next outing with the fifth wheel.
Certainly could be that. I'd say leave it alone and track the regens as before and see what you get.
I'd assume he did a manual regen there when he worked on it so it may take a few regens to see where you stand.
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Senix, I don't believe he did. The Tech talked about it when I brought it in but he wanted to drive it first and check the parameters while it was on the road. The truck went in to "exhaust cleaning" mode before he got it on the road and only 60 miles had elapsed since the last regen and the four before that. The filter was indicating "clean" before he left the shop. That's when he decided to call Ford-No-Advice for guidance before continuing. The dealership is letting me try the Mass Flow Sensor until I get back from my next trip to see if it takes care of the problem.
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I have a 2008 F250 Lariat 4X4 with a 6.4 Powerstroke engine. The truck just turned 40K miles and strict maintenance has been performed religiously since I bought new. The truck is not a Walmart runner and has been used exclusively to pull a 13K pound fifth wheel travel trailer probably 2/3rds of the miles showing. During a recent 400 mile round trip over the hills in eastern TN the truck started “Cleaning Exhaust Filter” about every 50 to 60 miles traveled. The cleaning would continue for about 20 miles and then repeat again within the next 60 miles. Took it to my local small town dealership today and they found “no codes” stored in the computer. They kept the computer hooked up and drove the truck to see if anything would show up and it went back in to “Filter Cleaning” as soon as they left the dealership. They contacted Ford for advice and were told that pulling the heavy loads over the hills would cause the DPF to regen more frequently and frequent regens may be normal. The dealership is familiar with my truck, how I use and maintain it and didn’t agree with Ford’s "no advice". The tech said he had seen this problem once before and then was advised to change out the “Mass Flow Sensor” even though it was showing normal on the computer. He installed a new “Mass Flow Sensor” and the computer then indicated that the DPF was clean. My dealership told me drive the truck for a couple of weeks to make sure the fix corrects the problem before paying the bill (no warranty). I drove the truck solo, no trailer, up into the mountains today and put about 100 miles on the engine. As of this writing no “Filter Cleaning” has occurred. I’ll be pulling my trailer next week on a short 300 mile pull, we will see if I get normal regens like I did before this problem started, aprox every 200 miles, give or take. Have any of you guys heard of this problem and fix? Any other suggestions since no codes are showing up?
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that's what i thought. Mine has been regenerating at 120 miles unloaded and 55-60 loaded with my camper since new. It is a 2008 4x4 350 dually with only 52k on the odometer. The last time i drove it , it was regenerating at 25-30 miles with the camper. 4 regens in a row on the highway
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