New to group, looking at buying a 1964 C600
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08-15-2014, 11:15 PM
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Will do on the updates, unfortunately I will not have the truck for the area chapter meeting on the 24th. My check does not come in till after the first and some work will need to be done before I drive it anyhow. I had to resist temptation and walk away from a GS 445 Rivera this week, I am glad I did LOL. Besides the truck runs and has a title the car did not. I swore off GM vehicles after my Suburban and Nova, got tired of small block Chevys and Buicks all my life. For cars anyhow. My work trucks were a mix of Ford and GM. Fords for the most part were 351 Windsor and FE. I am not a big 302 fan, the 300 six was a much better option in that case. I am excited to get my greasy paws on the N-600 and drive it, fortunately we have a farm so plates and insurance will not be too bad and I have a place to park it.
#32
08-23-2014, 03:42 PM
I was just stating that in a worse case scenario I could use the mechanical brake to get it home along with down shifting. I also will have someone follow me for support. I suppose I could rent a low boy trailer and pull it with our 818 military truck but that is a little extreme and would cost more than it would be worth. The brakes do hold solid and there were no leaks present so I believe it is just a bad adjuster, spring or cable. Another way to deal with it would be disconnect the fronts and plug the tee. It is all tar and chip back roads home anyhow. As far as strait air brakes as an upgrade I would not be able to drive it, I have diabetes and in IL. I cannot get a CDL. So air is not an option for me. We do have a couple International and a 46 Ford with hydraulic and stop well enough. Our smallest truck for hauling is a 89 Chevy 1 1/2 ton dump with hydro boost and front disk. It stops quite well even overloaded a bit. Too bad disk was not an option in 64 for a big truck.
#33
08-23-2014, 04:36 PM
He went out the back door which abutted the Ford dealers service department, then drove away in the sheriff's car that was parked there.
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08-23-2014, 05:05 PM
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08-23-2014, 07:54 PM
Short version: See post 32.
I looked at the Illinois web site and on-line brochures. All air brake references are for CDL, so as to avoid a restriction on your CDL. I could find nothing about air brakes for non-CDL vehicles. All CDL requirements were driven by weight, hazardous materials or passenger count over 16. Nothing about air brakes requiring a CDL, which is pretty much the case for every state I've checked. Some states have different classes other than CDL, and you may be required to pass a vehicle inspection which includes air brake checks.
To be honest, non-cdl air brake info is hard to find on the DMV web sites. You should contact them directly. Since your truck is under 26,001 and you are not a haz hauler or people mover, you do not need a CDL. But, you may need a non-CDL license in a different class.
Beats me, I can't stand trying to look this stuff up any longer today.
I looked at the Illinois web site and on-line brochures. All air brake references are for CDL, so as to avoid a restriction on your CDL. I could find nothing about air brakes for non-CDL vehicles. All CDL requirements were driven by weight, hazardous materials or passenger count over 16. Nothing about air brakes requiring a CDL, which is pretty much the case for every state I've checked. Some states have different classes other than CDL, and you may be required to pass a vehicle inspection which includes air brake checks.
To be honest, non-cdl air brake info is hard to find on the DMV web sites. You should contact them directly. Since your truck is under 26,001 and you are not a haz hauler or people mover, you do not need a CDL. But, you may need a non-CDL license in a different class.
Beats me, I can't stand trying to look this stuff up any longer today.
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08-23-2014, 07:57 PM
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<p>I just go by what the requirements are for the particular vehicle. Our 818 military truck or anything with a trailer that has full diaphragm air brakes I cannot drive with my license. Anything over 14000 lbs or with diaphragm air brakes requires a different license. I do not qualify for anything more that I have now in Illinois, now if I go to another state no problem. Illinois Law is completely different from the rest of the universe.</p>
#38
08-24-2014, 05:26 AM
<p>I just go by what the requirements are for the particular vehicle. Our 818 military truck or anything with a trailer that has full diaphragm air brakes I cannot drive with my license. Anything over 14000 lbs or with diaphragm air brakes requires a different license. I do not qualify for anything more that I have now in Illinois, now if I go to another state no problem. Illinois Law is completely different from the rest of the universe.</p>
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08-24-2014, 09:31 AM
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08-24-2014, 03:25 PM
I am not trying to be sarcastic but if that were the case you would not need a CDL at all. To drive a heavy truck you have to have one, so the secretary of state says so. We have heavy trucks. I wish I could drive 30000 LB trucks around with no license but that is not the case.
What is the GVWR of your truck? 26,000 and below only requires a Class C license.
Of course, if you get a Class A CDL with an air brake test, haz test, tank test, passenger test, combination test and bus test, you should be covered....
Commercial Driver's License
Look at your license. I bet it says, as my CA license does, that it is a class C license. Look here--see anything about airbrakes?
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/pu...s/dsd_x142.pdf
I think they are silent on it because it is unusual (or was unusual) to have air brakes below 26,001.
Illinois is not unlike any other place. Since the CDL rules came into effect, most DL rules are the same state to state. Exemptions for farm, RV and personal use vary.
Only by talking directly to a state official with licensing authority will you be 100% clear on this. And that after he takes a month to research it himself, I'd guess.
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08-24-2014, 04:39 PM
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I would not have a problem on the N600 or our International dump truck due to as you said, it is under weight for CDL requirements. The trucks with air over hydraulics are also exempt for CDL requirements. Hazardous materials, chauffer, and bus license and oversize / wide load are all add ons to your basic heavy hauler CDL. Originally this all started with someone stating that they would not drive a truck without full air brakes and I stated that being diabetic I could not get a license to drive it unless it is air over hydraulics. In the state of IL I cannot get a CDL, in other states I can. This only applies to type 1 diabetes, type II you can get a license with a doctors note. I also need a letter and form filled out every renewal.
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08-25-2014, 01:50 PM
I would not have a problem on the N600 or our International dump truck due to as you said, it is under weight for CDL requirements. The trucks with air over hydraulics are also exempt for CDL requirements. Hazardous materials, chauffer, and bus license and oversize / wide load are all add ons to your basic heavy hauler CDL. Originally this all started with someone stating that they would not drive a truck without full air brakes and I stated that being diabetic I could not get a license to drive it unless it is air over hydraulics. In the state of IL I cannot get a CDL, in other states I can. This only applies to type 1 diabetes, type II you can get a license with a doctors note. I also need a letter and form filled out every renewal.
Set up all the fictitious road blocks you want I guess.
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08-25-2014, 10:41 PM
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