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Old 06-15-2014, 06:29 PM
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1946 v8 239 rebuild kit

Hi Guys!
Happy fathers day to all fathers!

I will be ready to send my motor to the machine shop in about 2 weeks and I'm looking for a rebuild kit. I just hope to save has much has original parts possible. But I want a reliable motor so I will change what will need to be change!

I already have to change all valves kit... not sure if piston can be reused, i will wait for the machine shop call!

Do you have reliable supplier for rebuild kit that provide high quality parts for a fair price? I found many parts store looking at lot of threads... But which one offer the best quality parts in your opinion or experience!
I found this on ebay:
Ford V 8 Deluxe Engine KIT 1946 47 239 3 3 16" Bore Pistons Rings Gaskets | eBay

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I forgot to say that it's for a canadian F-135 (F-5). This motor is the original motor that was in the truck (a 1948) and when we open it all valves and gaskets were the original! The motor has only 15 000miles but has it was a firetruck so we know that for a firetruck it's not the miles but the hours that are important but there is no hour meter!
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Falcon doesn't have a good reputation. The thing with Falcon is the total lack of brand name stuff; you know it's 100% chinese. My advice would be to see if your machine shop can get Badger or Sealed Power pistons (if needed), Clevite or OEM Ford bearings, Hastings cast iron rings, and a Melling standard oil pump. You can't go wrong with them. The shops get such better prices, even if they mark them up to you it's not any worse than buying direct -- and then the shop "owns" the parts!

Edit: Do you know for sure it's a '46 engine? How could it be original in a '48 truck?
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Yes quite sure it's a 1946 motor!
C59A cast on block
Distributor on front
Coolant exit on heads is centre

I have been told on this forum that it was standard for ford in Canada to have for 2 years of stock motors on the shelves so if Ford changed the motor in 1948 my truck could have come out of the line with a 1946...

Thanks for your opinion for falcon! I don't want parts from china! I wand reliable parts even if I need to pay more!

I will check with my machine shop to make sure they get the brand you are talking about!

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In Canada, Ford continued to use the 59A engine in the 1948 model trucks up to serial number 20000. The 8BA began with serial number 20001, according to the Canadian Ford Chassis Parts Catalog.
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Nice info Wayne!
I'll keep this in my book of the story of my ford.
I really like to know this kind of stuff!
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I forgot to say that it's for a canadian F-135 (F-5). This motor is the original motor that was in the truck (a 1948) and when we open it all valves and gaskets were the original! The motor has only 15 000miles but has it was a firetruck so we know that for a firetruck it's not the miles but the hours that are important but there is no hour meter!
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That's sometimes a misconception. Not all old firetrucks saw a lot of action, especially if equipped with single speed axles. The '48 F6 my hometown just retired didn't see much action due to few fires, then very little after the department got newer trucks with 2-speeds.
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For fire action....

This is something I will try to find in a near future... I will try to find more on the history of my truck with the city he came from! I want to find when it was bought and when he was retired... What fire he was involved in... I hope I will find a fire log like the one we have now! That would be so great!

I just hope he didn't saw a lot of fire and practice so the motor and all other stuff would be like new!
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Ross...
I found all stuff you were telling me...
The only thing missing would be valve kit.
Any suggestion?
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I would look on eBay and elsewhere for OEM Ford valves and springs, believe it or not there are still lots of brand new parts out there. But if they are expensive, see what the machine shop can come up with. Are you going with adjustable lifters? If so, Chevy 1.50" exhaust valves work great and are cheap as dirt (but stay away from chinese stuff). They require matching locks and retainers, I believe. I'd get my adjustables from Red's Headers, BTW. Flatheads aren't real demanding in terms of valves.

All the repro guides are chinese, and there have been some problems with valves sticking in them due to improper clearances. Have the machinist check them carefully.

I'm pretty sure your engine will already have hardened seats on both intake and exhaust, but verify.
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Thanks for all this info!
You can't imagine how it's appreciate!
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I have a '47 ford with a rebuilt engine by sears in the 60's. Does anyone know if they happened to put hardened seats in them back then? I'm having a hard time finding information on it and just need to know if putting a lead substitute in the tank is fruitful.
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Lead substitutes don't do a thing for valve seats.

Which engine do you have? Is your engine the original type of engine? Assuming it's a V8, it would have come with a 59-series engine, with an integral bell housing cast as part of the block. The heads would have the water outlets in the middle of the heads, not at the front.

Regardless, all 59-series engines came with hardened seats. Ford started eliminating them in mid-1950 in the later series V8 flatheads.
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Lead substitutes don't do a thing for valve seats.

Which engine do you have? Is your engine the original type of engine? Assuming it's a V8, it would have come with a 59-series engine, with an integral bell housing cast as part of the block. The heads would have the water outlets in the middle of the heads, not at the front.

Regardless, all 59-series engines came with hardened seats. Ford started eliminating them in mid-1950 in the later series V8 flatheads.
The V8 that's in my truck does have the water outlets in the center. The heads have (on the passenger side) a T and 32 and then some code 81T-xxxx it's hard to see and the other head has an A on it. I'm new to this stuff so........ I have another flathead V8 off of a 51-52 truck that says EAB on the heads and 8BA 8RT on the intake (I'll be rebuilding this one). I can email a couple of pics to you. Austinwagoncompany@gmail.com if it'll help.
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Your 47's engine is the original type 59 engine. It will have hardened seats.

The EAB engine will almost certainly not have hardened seats. EAB's were only put in cars from the factory. Does it have narrow belts?
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