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Four Wheeler took a crack at improving the 460's mpg:

http://performanceunlimited.com/proj...ine_series.pdf

The above was a heavy weight Centurion too and got 13 mpg-- with work the Reg Cabs can be put on a diet and can shed 1000 lbs compared to this beast...................with additional rear end mods, modern exhaust updates, latest Banks fuel/air delivery tech, end-to-end lightening (including light weight wheels), smaller tires w/nitrogen and other mods 15-19 on the HWY is very possible.



Here's a turbo mover / shaker:

460 turbo f - Bing Videos





thats basically a "6LITER" tune up for a 351 or 302 lol that would help your 302 look it up
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I personally am wondering if the OP is like I am and lives on a backroad where cars like Craig (kerrmydog) can't get. If that is true I think the OP should back down a little more from the F150 and get a ranger or Explorer maybe a Bronco 2.

Personally I bought a 94 Explorer 4x4 that needed some work for $1000 (With a parts truck) with immaculant body to first off get me around while my F150 was down and 2 get better fuel mileage.
We also have a 84 Bronco 2 4x4 that gets great gas mileage that we paid $400 for and have less then $900 into it.
What I am saying is maybe a car isn't the best maybe you should go to a small SUV or truck.
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Crunch the numbers and see where you stand. You can get a bare bones econobox for $1500. Insurance is dirt cheap, insuring my Mazda is $18 a month. Then again, I drive 65 miles a day for work, and driving the truck daily would put me in the poor house. My Mazda gets 35-38 mpg, however it has no a/c, no power steering, crank windows, vinyl seats, and made 82 hp when new in 1991.
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This is a good point, in some cases it won't make financial sense to buy a second vehicle. The OP of this thread is a 16yr old student, he probally has absolutely no need for a 460 powered F350 4x4 crew and just bought it because it was cool to have a monster truck. So the solution then would be to sell the beast and buy a 4x4 Ranger or even a car or SUV if he has no real need for a truck.

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I want to throw one out there against the just buy a Eco box claim. You need to figure out how much you drive, figure out how much that cost

Say your truck gets 8 mpg and you drive 150 miles a week. That's 7800 miles a year. Divide by 8 mpg and your left with 975 gallons of fuel a year. Multiply by $3.75 as an estimate for gas price and your at $3,656.25 a year in gas. That's quiet a lot. Now say you buy an Eco car that gets 30 mpg. That's 260 gallons a year or $975 for gas. Big savings right? Now add the price of the car. Let's say $3500 for a reliable daily. Your now at $4475. Then you factor in insurance for a second vehicle. Let's say $100 a month for a young driver like you. That's another $1200. So now we are at $5675 the first year. But that's not it. That second car is likely gonna need maintenance. That's more money. Lest say $500 a year. That brings the total to $6175 the first year. This is just for the new car. This doesn't include the truck your still paying for. See what I mean?
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This is a good point, in some cases it won't make financial sense to buy a second vehicle. The OP of this thread is a 16yr old student, he probally has absolutely no need for a 460 powered F350 4x4 crew and just bought it because it was cool to have a monster truck. So the solution then would be to sell the beast and buy a 4x4 Ranger or even a car or SUV if he has no real need for a truck.

^^ Bingo!! And odds are if he plans on attending college or tech school in the future, he will be driving more and have more monthly expenses. If he lives in an area where road conditions can get bad, an AWD vehicle like a Subaru or a 4 cylinder Escape would get the job done. Been there, done that. Having a huge awesome truck is no fun when you're broke!!
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I want a better daily driver that gets better mpg than my 460.
I drove my new 94 F350 4x4 with 7.3 n/a. It has bad 35' tires and 240k on the ticker. 17mpg@63 using google map miles and gps speed. Just a thought.
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Driving my truck daily would cost me about $500 a month. I drive it to work maybe once or twice a week, but usually drive my alternate vehicle. It has a V8 in it also, but gets around 25 MPG highway.
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My truck is just my weekend toy hauler. My daily driver is a 1994 Trek mtn bike with a milk crate on the rear fender, haha. Good road tires, true wheels, oiled chain, I get around town nearly as quickly as when I drive the truck, and it costs free.99. This way I can ride a $12k snowmobile and not be broke Plus it keeps me from becoming a lardazz. ANNDD I don't have to find a parking spot everyday. Unfortunately that doesn't work for many people, especially for the long commutes.
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I drive everyday to school witch is 12.4 miles from my house. I spend about $250 a month on gas for my 90 460 with e4od. I get 10mpg. Gas is $4.12 and diesel is $4.06. I hope to get my 89 7.3 idi ZF5 ready for the summer because it will be cheeper on fuel. I just need to keep learning how to drive a stick better frist.
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The OP of this thread is a 16yr old student, he probally has absolutely no need for a 460 powered F350 4x4 crew and just bought it because it was cool to have a monster truck. So the solution then would be to sell the beast and buy a 4x4 Ranger or even a car or SUV if he has no real need for a truck.
I got the f350 for use. I'm getting a car hauler this august because I buy and sell trucks and a half ton won't suit my needs for this task. For example, last year missed out on a 95 F250 4x2 crew cab long bed that needed a new rear differential for 1200 that I heard run but couldn't get it home because I didn't have a stout enough truck to pull it 350 miles. I had an axle lined up for $200 and a buyer lined up for $3000 but I missed the sale because the cost of paying someone to ship it killed the profit and I couldn't pull it home with my little F150 at the time. So, The F350 I own I knew about the cost of ownership before I got it.

As for a car, I can't get a car to where I live. Even the paved roads around here are terrible and at least 3 times a week I see a car scrape the ground within 5 miles of my house.

A compact pickup, I looked into those as well. I looked at two rangers and an s10. They all had 40/20/40 seats and my shoulders were over hanging both sides of the seats. I have very big shoulders and I couldn't sit in it without a lot of discomfort in my shoulder blades. So a full size is about the only option.

As far as crunching numbers, that's what I'm trying to do. That's why I asked about mpg to crunch the numbers to see if the cost made sense.
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I got the f350 for use. I'm getting a car hauler this august because I buy and sell trucks and a half ton won't suit my needs for this task. For example, last year missed out on a 95 F250 4x2 crew cab long bed that needed a new rear differential for 1200 that I heard run but couldn't get it home because I didn't have a stout enough truck to pull it 350 miles. I had an axle lined up for $200 and a buyer lined up for $3000 but I missed the sale because the cost of paying someone to ship it killed the profit and I couldn't pull it home with my little F150 at the time. So, The F350 I own I knew about the cost of ownership before I got it.

As for a car, I can't get a car to where I live. Even the paved roads around here are terrible and at least 3 times a week I see a car scrape the ground within 5 miles of my house.

A compact pickup, I looked into those as well. I looked at two rangers and an s10. They all had 40/20/40 seats and my shoulders were over hanging both sides of the seats. I have very big shoulders and I couldn't sit in it without a lot of discomfort in my shoulder blades. So a full size is about the only option.

As far as crunching numbers, that's what I'm trying to do. That's why I asked about mpg to crunch the numbers to see if the cost made sense.

since you showed concern with a car scraping


best of both worlds right there
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Hahaha that's gold! :-) But seriously though, if you need something that can tow a lot, will fit you comfortable, and possesses the off road prowess to get where you need to go then personally I don't think that there is much you can do short of just continuing to drive your truck and pay for gas as is, sell the 460 and buy a diesel, or swap a diesel into your current truck. That is a very costly option however and unless you are looking at keeping this truck for 20 years it wouldn't be profitable. Just my .02 though
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I want to throw one out there against the just buy a Eco box claim. You need to figure out how much you drive, figure out how much that cost then compare. Figure out what mileage a Eco box would get, how much the added insurance would be and then add the amour your going to pay for the new Eco box. Doesn't seem so beneficial now does it? I'll run you through an example here.

Say your truck gets 8 mpg and you drive 150 miles a week. That's 7800 miles a year. Divide by 8 mpg and your left with 975 gallons of fuel a year. Multiply by $3.75 as an estimate for gas price and your at $3,656.25 a year in gas. That's quiet a lot. Now say you buy an Eco car that gets 30 mpg. That's 260 gallons a year or $975 for gas. Big savings right? Now add the price of the car. Let's say $3500 for a reliable daily. Your now at $4475. Then you factor in insurance for a second vehicle. Let's say $100 a month for a young driver like you. That's another $1200. So now we are at $5675 the first year. But that's not it. That second car is likely gonna need maintenance. That's more money. Lest say $500 a year. That brings the total to $6175 the first year. This is just for the new car. This doesn't include the truck your still paying for. See what I mean?

The notion of an Eco box is good, but not if you drive very few miles like I do. I was in the exact same position as you last year and even went as far as going to my insurance guy and talking with him to see if it would save me money. He strait up told me that unless I sold my truck for a fuel efficient car, it wouldn't save me anything for a few years.
I believe your estimates are a bit off. $3500 isn't needed for a reliable daily driver, but some mechanical know how is. My last two DD were purchased for $600 and served me trouble free for years.

Also, I've never had my insurance go up by even half that by adding a second vehicle. I believe my ranger added roughly $25 a month.

Even if you drive your truck very little, you'll end up money ahead by purchasing a fuel sipping DD.
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I have more or less been in the same boat. I was driving my 460 20km's to and from work every day, spending about 150 bucks in fuel every two weeks. The e4od lost second gear, so I sold it for 1500 bucks, and picked up a 94 F150 sclb 300 inline 5 speed. I had a truck similar to this in the past, and it did exceptional even with 35's and 3.55 gears. It's all a matter of how you drive it. I would get close to 500km's with the above tire gear combo hauling a 12ft U-haul, had to do so on a couple of occasions. Not much use for overdrive though
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