F150 Light Diesel Conversion Options
#31
Ok, I figured someone would beat me to it, but had to throw it out there just in case.
I do know in the late 60's, M&W made a turbo kit for the Ford 5000 (before Ford went ahead and made the factory turbo'd 7000 in '71), which was originally a 67hp tractor. I've heard of some people installing this kit and cranking the fuel til the little 256 would hit about 100-105hp. Not the smartest idea, but it netted results. The aforementioned 7000 is basically a turbo'd 5000 with a slightly beefier bottom end and some components better suited to a turbocharged engine. It was an 83hp tractor.
There were also small 3 cylinder diesels from 29-52hp, but again, these figures are all @ the pto and weren't tuned for "performance", per se.
Another candidate I forgot about is the 6.0L's little brother, the vt265 (I believe...it's a v6 6.0)...
I do know in the late 60's, M&W made a turbo kit for the Ford 5000 (before Ford went ahead and made the factory turbo'd 7000 in '71), which was originally a 67hp tractor. I've heard of some people installing this kit and cranking the fuel til the little 256 would hit about 100-105hp. Not the smartest idea, but it netted results. The aforementioned 7000 is basically a turbo'd 5000 with a slightly beefier bottom end and some components better suited to a turbocharged engine. It was an 83hp tractor.
There were also small 3 cylinder diesels from 29-52hp, but again, these figures are all @ the pto and weren't tuned for "performance", per se.
Another candidate I forgot about is the 6.0L's little brother, the vt265 (I believe...it's a v6 6.0)...
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#33
I was kinda leaning more towards the "American made/parts availability" side of things. But the engines I listed off will spin around 2200-2400 rpm stock. The only thing you'd need to consider/change is that they're load governed instead of speed governed. I hadn't thought about mating it to a Trans, though. However, tractor rear ends are where the low gearing is...but how cool would be to have an 8 speed with a 2 speed power shift? LOL
But that international v6 I mentioned went in the little cab over box vans, very much like a sprinter (which was also a slick idea....very plentiful). The vt265 I saw had twin turbos on it!!!!
But that international v6 I mentioned went in the little cab over box vans, very much like a sprinter (which was also a slick idea....very plentiful). The vt265 I saw had twin turbos on it!!!!
#34
Tractor engines do not have enough power. And most of them are also setup for governor control. You have to do some fiddling with the injection pump to make them work on the road with a throttle control for a vehicle.
You could put a turbo on them, but they are still underpowered. That's one of the reasons the old Rangers and Escort diesels didn't last on the market. All those early diesels were considered slow, just like the old rabbits and others. My old 7.3 is a fairly slow truck when it's empty.
You could put a turbo on them, but they are still underpowered. That's one of the reasons the old Rangers and Escort diesels didn't last on the market. All those early diesels were considered slow, just like the old rabbits and others. My old 7.3 is a fairly slow truck when it's empty.
#35
I was kinda leaning more towards the "American made/parts availability" side of things. But the engines I listed off will spin around 2200-2400 rpm stock. The only thing you'd need to consider/change is that they're load governed instead of speed governed. I hadn't thought about mating it to a Trans, though. However, tractor rear ends are where the low gearing is...but how cool would be to have an 8 speed with a 2 speed power shift? LOL
But that international v6 I mentioned went in the little cab over box vans, very much like a sprinter (which was also a slick idea....very plentiful). The vt265 I saw had twin turbos on it!!!!
But that international v6 I mentioned went in the little cab over box vans, very much like a sprinter (which was also a slick idea....very plentiful). The vt265 I saw had twin turbos on it!!!!
Tractor engines do not have enough power. And most of them are also setup for governor control. You have to do some fiddling with the injection pump to make them work on the road with a throttle control for a vehicle.
You could put a turbo on them, but they are still underpowered. That's one of the reasons the old Rangers and Escort diesels didn't last on the market. All those early diesels were considered slow, just like the old rabbits and others. My old 7.3 is a fairly slow truck when it's empty.
You could put a turbo on them, but they are still underpowered. That's one of the reasons the old Rangers and Escort diesels didn't last on the market. All those early diesels were considered slow, just like the old rabbits and others. My old 7.3 is a fairly slow truck when it's empty.
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#38
How come you want a little tough diesel powered pickup? is the 460 powered 3/4 ton not tough enough?
#39
There is another pro as far as the '80-86 trucks go... A lot more freedom as far as engine swaps are concerned. I know in this state of NJ, '96 and older Diesels are emissions exempt, and the last year of this body style is also a classic. I'm not suggesting just because it's exempt that it shouldn't run cleanly, but you don't have to deal with the all the new-fangled emissions systems.
That's this state anyway; California I'm sure you could take all the emissions crap off and tune something to run perfectly and pollute less then when it was new, but it will still fail.
#41
Matthew,
There are times I need to go to work and don't need a ton of stuff.
It would be nice to have double digit fuel mileage.
I think a small diesel could reliably get into the 20's
My truck is finally past emissions testing here in Connecticut.
I keep it because it is the very last of the non-computerized trucks.
The bricknose 'styling' has to be the most homely visages ever on the F-series. (IMO)
I don't think they're so plentiful anymore here in the salt belt.
But I like your idea and look forward to see how you figure it out!
There are times I need to go to work and don't need a ton of stuff.
It would be nice to have double digit fuel mileage.
I think a small diesel could reliably get into the 20's
My truck is finally past emissions testing here in Connecticut.
I keep it because it is the very last of the non-computerized trucks.
The bricknose 'styling' has to be the most homely visages ever on the F-series. (IMO)
I don't think they're so plentiful anymore here in the salt belt.
But I like your idea and look forward to see how you figure it out!
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