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Old 01-14-2014, 03:30 PM
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7.3 a/c compressor pulley wrong size on all available replacements

Trying to swap out the compressor on the ex. The old one is the original that came with this truck when it was new. I bought a ford motorcraft replacement for it and the pulley is bigger by 5/8". Returned and bought a four seasons compressor. Same thing pulley is bigger. Compared to multiple other compressors at the dealership and all pulleys are bigger than original. Went to a parts warehouse called bumper to bumper and looked at well over a dozen aftermarket compressors and same problem. Did ford change the compressor pulley size mid year or something? Will the larger pulley fit my truck? Truck is on the rack right now holding up the mechanic and charging me every hour it sits. Need answer ASAP. Thanks
 
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Everything I'm seeing in every catalog is 117mm clutch on the Excursion, 119mm on the trucks. That's is definitely not 5/8" difference. Now that is the actual clutch pulley, not the lip in front of it if any. 4S (58164) actually specs it in 4.5" which is ~115mm. Still not that much different. Where was the difference exactly?

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Just looked up an f250 on 4S (58161), it has a 5 1/8" clutch, roughly 127mm. Someone is superseding the numbers as a will fit.

Here are some numbers that list the smaller clutch.

4S# 58164
Omega-USA# 20-21373
Global# 010448
Keystone/Key Kool # ACP010216
 
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So will it fit?
 
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The difference is lip to lip. Don't have a micrometer to measure the actual pulley where the belt rides. But the depth from the lip looks the same visually.
 
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The belt may be too short, among other clearance issues, not sure. I'm not the one working on the truck. The compressor body itself is the same, just the clutch is different. Check the suppliers for the numbers I listed and see if they were ones that you bought. The pulley where the belt rides is the important part
 
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Should I buy a belt for an f250 to make it work? Is it larger?
 
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I have the mechanic mounting the motorcraft compressor right now.
 
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And if the shop is charging you on rack time and not work time, shove the old compressor up his A$$. That is not proper business and is even illegal in some states.
 
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And if the shop is charging you on rack time and not work time, shove the old compressor up his A$$
Agreed. Lol

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Just called the ford dealership the difference between the 2 belts is 1/4 inch. Said I should be fine running the excursion belt.
 
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It's dissasbled right now on the rack. He has 2 racks he can't move the truck till it's done. How is this illegal?
 
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Was just looking at that, 121.3" vs 122.2, a bit more than a 1/4" but still can make that up in the tensioner "maybe"
 
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Labor times are labor times. That's why we have them. You don't charge for wrong parts or late deliveries. That's just bad business. I didnt say it was illegal where you were, there are consumer protection laws in some states that specify they can only charge labor/book times or less. Not for actual time on the rack or on the lot. Now once the job is done that's a different story, they can charge you all the storage fees they want if you don't pick up in agreed upon time. I'm getting the feeling that this is a crooked shop and not to be trusted.
 
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I supplied all parts and materials.
 
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So? That just means he really doesn't have to warranty the job. Still not right. Like he's never gotten a wrong part from a supplier...
 


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