Planning A Lift
#16
I'm not sure on the shock length, however, I think you may run into driveshaft length issues at a 6" lift. I'm not positive on that, but I lifted my truck about 7" in the rear and the driveshaft was no where near long enough. That was on an F250, so I'm sure yours is the same deal. Plus, if you put 33" tires on there with a 6" lift, it is going to be goofy as hell. You also may want to check into local laws on how high you can go.
#17
I'm not sure on the shock length, however, I think you may run into driveshaft length issues at a 6" lift. I'm not positive on that, but I lifted my truck about 7" in the rear and the driveshaft was no where near long enough. That was on an F250, so I'm sure yours is the same deal. Plus, if you put 33" tires on there with a 6" lift, it is going to be goofy as hell. You also may want to check into local laws on how high you can go.
I just gotta think about it all before I rush into anything.
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Have you looked into the RSK? It is not just a longer or flipped shackle, it moves the shackle from the front of the spring to the rear, which improves the suspension geometry while giving you 3 or 5" lift. With the shackle up front, when the wheel travels up to clear a bump it also travels forward slightly making it more harsh. Moved to the rear of the spring, the wheel now travels rearwards as it goes over a bump... much smoother. You don't need to buy front springs, so I believe it is cheaper also.
#19
Like Bashby has been saying all along. RSK. You would be a fool to do it any other way.
It is about 350 for a 3" RSK to reuse your existing springs and the ride would improve.
Or if you want a NICE ride you can go with a PFM RSK that lets you use longer SuperDuty springs.
For the rear I would recommend a Icon lift spring for a SD in what ever lift height you are looking for.
Just a FYI. 33s will look like complete a s s on a truck with 6" of lift
35s fit just about perfect on a truck with a 2.25 RSK and full SD springs
It is about 350 for a 3" RSK to reuse your existing springs and the ride would improve.
Or if you want a NICE ride you can go with a PFM RSK that lets you use longer SuperDuty springs.
For the rear I would recommend a Icon lift spring for a SD in what ever lift height you are looking for.
Just a FYI. 33s will look like complete a s s on a truck with 6" of lift
35s fit just about perfect on a truck with a 2.25 RSK and full SD springs
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Like Bashby has been saying all along. RSK. You would be a fool to do it any other way.
It is about 350 for a 3" RSK to reuse your existing springs and the ride would improve.
Or if you want a NICE ride you can go with a PFM RSK that lets you use longer SuperDuty springs.
For the rear I would recommend a Icon lift spring for a SD in what ever lift height you are looking for.
Just a FYI. 33s will look like complete a s s on a truck with 6" of lift
35s fit just about perfect on a truck with a 2.25 RSK and full SD springs
It is about 350 for a 3" RSK to reuse your existing springs and the ride would improve.
Or if you want a NICE ride you can go with a PFM RSK that lets you use longer SuperDuty springs.
For the rear I would recommend a Icon lift spring for a SD in what ever lift height you are looking for.
Just a FYI. 33s will look like complete a s s on a truck with 6" of lift
35s fit just about perfect on a truck with a 2.25 RSK and full SD springs
I keep hearing people talk about the SD springs, do you mean the stock ones from the 99+ trucks. Do they give additional lift?
#21
Have you looked into the RSK? It is not just a longer or flipped shackle, it moves the shackle from the front of the spring to the rear, which improves the suspension geometry while giving you 3 or 5" lift. With the shackle up front, when the wheel travels up to clear a bump it also travels forward slightly making it more harsh. Moved to the rear of the spring, the wheel now travels rearwards as it goes over a bump... much smoother. You don't need to buy front springs, so I believe it is cheaper also.
Thanks for all the help!
#23
Sounds like a good plan to me. Just need to figure out how to order the parts. It sounds like you're pretty experienced at this!
Thanks in advance!
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Can you point me to specific links? I see a rear shackle kit from Sky for my truck, but I don't see front ones. Here's the rear one I found: 78-97 F series Ford 4x4 Rear Shackle Flip Kit - Sky's Off-road Design
Sounds like a good plan to me. Just need to figure out how to order the parts. It sounds like you're pretty experienced at this!
Thanks in advance!
Sounds like a good plan to me. Just need to figure out how to order the parts. It sounds like you're pretty experienced at this!
Thanks in advance!
#25
The only thing for the front that I see from Sky are for 9th generation F-Series. It says frame mods must be made for the kit it to fit 1887-1991 trucks. That's this front kit from them: http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/detaproduct.php?id=162
I don't see anything through them that will fit 1987-1991 F-Series. I saw one kit through another company that fit the front, but it was about $100 more than the Sky kit for all 4 shackles.
Also, if I were to do the frame mods, will I need a pitman arm with the lift it will give me?
I don't see anything through them that will fit 1987-1991 F-Series. I saw one kit through another company that fit the front, but it was about $100 more than the Sky kit for all 4 shackles.
Also, if I were to do the frame mods, will I need a pitman arm with the lift it will give me?
#26
The only thing for the front that I see from Sky are for 9th generation F-Series. It says frame mods must be made for the kit it to fit 1887-1991 trucks. That's this front kit from them: 92-97 F-250/F-350 3-5 inch 4x4 Front Shackle Rever - Sky's Off-road Design
I don't see anything through them that will fit 1987-1991 F-Series. I saw one kit through another company that fit the front, but it was about $100 more than the Sky kit for all 4 shackles.
Also, if I were to do the frame mods, will I need a pitman arm with the lift it will give me?
I don't see anything through them that will fit 1987-1991 F-Series. I saw one kit through another company that fit the front, but it was about $100 more than the Sky kit for all 4 shackles.
Also, if I were to do the frame mods, will I need a pitman arm with the lift it will give me?
I have not used the a RSK on the 80-91 frame so I cannot speak from experience but my 86 has SD springs on it and the bumper is notched to clear the longer springs, I would think the 87-91 would be similar
#27
Yes and no. The lift they give is marginal. The RSK is where you get the lift. The SD stock springs give the ride.
ORU(OffRoadUnlimited) sells a RSK for your 87-91. But like you said it is about $100 more than the SKY kit, But it also comes with the piece of metal to box your frame so the RSK will work. If you have fab skills, I would get the SKY kit and make a piece to box your frame.
I have not used the a RSK on the 80-91 frame so I cannot speak from experience but my 86 has SD springs on it and the bumper is notched to clear the longer springs, I would think the 87-91 would be similar
ORU(OffRoadUnlimited) sells a RSK for your 87-91. But like you said it is about $100 more than the SKY kit, But it also comes with the piece of metal to box your frame so the RSK will work. If you have fab skills, I would get the SKY kit and make a piece to box your frame.
I have not used the a RSK on the 80-91 frame so I cannot speak from experience but my 86 has SD springs on it and the bumper is notched to clear the longer springs, I would think the 87-91 would be similar
It says that the kit only relocates the front shackles. So I'll still need a rear set.
Another possible option I guess would be getting the rear shackle kit from Sky, and getting 4" springs for the front. It sounds like the shackle kit is nice for the ride quality though. Not sure where to go with that...
I'm thinking I'll do the shackles in the back no matter what (through Sky) because it's a cheap, nice riding option. Plus I don't feel like I need as much lift in the back since it already site higher. In the front, would you go with $650 4" springs, shocks, pitman arm or $500 2.5-3" with the RSK? I'd love to know your opinion.
I've got some time to think about it since I don't really want to sit outside and do this until April when it warms up nicely.
#28
I have heard nothing but problems with SKY rear shackle flip. I thought about it for my bronco but I dont want issues. I would just go with what lift spring you want.
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
This is ORUs 2.5" RSK w super lift 4" lift springs with 2 leafs per pack taken out.
The rear is 6" skyjacker springs with the fitted add-a-leaf.
Total lift is about 7-8" over stock.
35/14.50/16.6 tire
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
This is ORUs 2.5" RSK w super lift 4" lift springs with 2 leafs per pack taken out.
The rear is 6" skyjacker springs with the fitted add-a-leaf.
Total lift is about 7-8" over stock.
35/14.50/16.6 tire
#29
I have heard nothing but problems with SKY rear shackle flip. I thought about it for my bronco but I dont want issues. I would just go with what lift spring you want.
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
I really liked the shackle idea in the back too. What have you heard bad about it? Maybe someone else makes them for the rear...?
#30
I have heard nothing but problems with SKY rear shackle flip. I thought about it for my bronco but I dont want issues. I would just go with what lift spring you want.
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
This is ORUs 2.5" RSK w super lift 4" lift springs with 2 leafs per pack taken out.
The rear is 6" skyjacker springs with the fitted add-a-leaf.
Total lift is about 7-8" over stock.
35/14.50/16.6 tire
For the front I would go with what ever RSK you want and then the corresponding springs to get the lift you are looking for
This is ORUs 2.5" RSK w super lift 4" lift springs with 2 leafs per pack taken out.
The rear is 6" skyjacker springs with the fitted add-a-leaf.
Total lift is about 7-8" over stock.
35/14.50/16.6 tire