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Old 10-27-2012, 09:51 PM
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Modular 4.6 Between Fat Fenders ???

Anyone set a mod engine and OD transmission into a 48-52 while maintaining the stock front axle? Clearance problems anywhere, oil pan, steering gear, firewall, rear cross member?
And how about the same mod engine into a 53 thru 56?
I am guessing any engine mounts will have to be fabricated.
Appreciate any links that I may have overlooked.
I need a project
 
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:26 AM
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Ray,
I am putting a 4.6 dohc in my 50 and just got the engine mounts tacked in place last night. I have a mustang II though. There are a few others that have put one in.
If it helps the motor mounts I used were from Paul Hortons Welder Series for the 4.6 and are real nice.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:39 PM
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Ray!!! Say it isn't so!? LOL, did seeing Kevin's '54 turn you to the dark side?!
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Ray!!! Say it isn't so!? LOL, did seeing Kevin's '54 turn you to the dark side?!
Ross, Idle hands are the devil's work place or some such verbage I am looking for a project. I know how smooth and economically those 4.6s and 5.4s are and how cheap they run thru the E4OD or later transmission. Fairly low mileage retired police Crown Vics are pretty cheap and that would give me the entire package to pick and choose what wiring and sensors I need. I want something with DRW that will run highway speeds and still be able to tow. I do want to retain the stock look although I know it will have later wheels and a brake upgrade. And the monkey faces are my favorites.
I figure the Ford AOD would not do very well in an F-4, what I am looking for. No, I would not go very dark, just shades of gray. To be honest, I've even considered Chebby power. I am still in the investigating period, weighing my options. I know of a '55 F-350 that runs a 350W driving a C-6 and later rear end and that is one sweet machine. The builder did not have to do any chopping.
I mentioned Chebby. I even considered a fuel injected engine/tranny from a P30 to go into Missy Green but I doubt if she is the one to get any upgrade.
Just thinking out loud and bouncing a few things off anyone who will listen with an open mind.
And yes, Kevin's truck did impress me, a beautiful build.
 
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How much are you wanting to tow? I agree, an AOD is not likely a good choice for real towing, I don't know much about the E4OD's. On the other hand, a 4L80 (GM) would be good for probably a 10k trailer load. Ford has some good ZF manual trannies but that adds complications. What about a Chev diesel with Allison??

I know where there's a monkey face F-5 DRW just waiting for some TLC...
But seriously, here you go: 1949 Ford F4 dually!!
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
How much are you wanting to tow? I agree, an AOD is not likely a good choice for real towing, I don't know much about the E4OD's. On the other hand, a 4L80 (GM) would be good for probably a 10k trailer load. Ford has some good ZF manual trannies but that adds complications. What about a Chev diesel with Allison??

I know where there's a monkey face F-5 DRW just waiting for some TLC...
But seriously, here you go: 1949 Ford F4 dually!!
Thanks for the link, Ross. I called and left a message on the sellers phone. I had hopes of finding something closer. I am looking at one in northern Minnesota, no reply on it either yet. Shipping on either of these would probably cost nearly as much as the cost of the truck. I am in no hurry.
I want something that will tow 10Klbs so the AOD is out. The E40D and the later variation is a decent tranny, used in cars and light trucks, thru the 350 series. The very early units needed upgrades to be stout. But it is not like I am hard on equipment.
There is a local municipality that was clearing out some of those Chebbys, some diesel and some gas but I believe I snoozed too long.
Weighing my options is half the fun. Thanks for the tip, link to the truck.
Oh yeah, I remember that F-5
 
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Originally Posted by Drewsc
Ray,
I am putting a 4.6 dohc in my 50 and just got the engine mounts tacked in place last night. I have a mustang II though. There are a few others that have put one in.
If it helps the motor mounts I used were from Paul Hortons Welder Series for the 4.6 and are real nice.
Drew
Ford Motor Mounts, 4.6L & 5.4L, Urethane Insulated | Welder Series Inc.
Many thanks for the link. Reps for that. I didn't know anyone was making such stuff for the mod motors.
 
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