Lucille's open apology
#46
I wonder what the Chevy crowd would do if they walked up to "Old Red" here with his hood open? You can read all about it here. 1948 Chevrolet Truck - Classic Trucks Magazine
#48
I hear you... a few years ago, I owned a pristine 1973 Triumph Bonneville motorcycle, it looked (and ran) like a brand new bike. Regardless, the market wasn't as interested in these old stock bikes as much as it was embracing the chopped bobber style bikes. I stripped the bike down to a rolling chassis and planned on chopping it but I just couldn't do it. I ended up reassembling the bike and left it all stock. As far as the sticker is concerned, I guess I want a little controversy since people will form their own opinions anyway, why not rev them up first. I used to build motorcycles and take them to shows. We'd sit there for hours while people walked by and looked at them. Most of the time the winners belonged to guys who spent huge money on custom built bikes that were only ridden from the trailer in the parking lot to the show area, then they went back into the trailer. Since that point, I decided that I wasn't going to "show" the truck (or any vehicle), since it felt like a waste of my time, I'll just drive her around town and gracefully take the thumbs up or "nice truck" comments here and there. When I attend a crusing event, the hood stays closed, let 'em guess what's under there!
Wally
1951 F1 - "Lucille"
Wally
1951 F1 - "Lucille"
I agree with both you and Doc on this theme. I probably won't show my truck either when it's finished for the same reason I won't take my Cobra to a show anymore. I did a couple times but ran into way too much negativity. All I would hear is " Is it real?"... No it's unreal. Or, "It's only a kit car". Well of course it is. Can you see my pockets bulging with millions of bucks? As a matter of fact, for the record, Carroll Shelby's (RIP) creations were kit cars in the truest sense.
Pardon my rant and my off topic subject matter but I just get So irritated with the masses at times.
#49
I just want to butt in and say that the folks on this Forum have an amazing amount of integrity and class. That's why I am glad to be a part of it.
Here we have a fairly contentious topic going on and while we each have strong opinions about it, we treat each other with respect, encouragement and dignity.
Well Done !
Here we have a fairly contentious topic going on and while we each have strong opinions about it, we treat each other with respect, encouragement and dignity.
Well Done !
#50
I just want to butt in and say that the folks on this Forum have an amazing amount of integrity and class. That's why I am glad to be a part of it.
Here we have a fairly contentious topic going on and while we each have strong opinions about it, we treat each other with respect, encouragement and dignity.
Well Done !
Here we have a fairly contentious topic going on and while we each have strong opinions about it, we treat each other with respect, encouragement and dignity.
Well Done !
Haha....I love it! Turnabout is fair play right??
There was a green Chevy 2dr sedan (guessing late 40's?)sitting in the parking lot at the nationals this year. He had the hood up and it had a 351 cleveland in it. It was great seeing it.
A guy that was standing there looking at it with me said a good friend of his put a 460 in a mid fifties Bel-Air and took it to a Chevy show. He said they "escorted" him back out of the show and forbode him to return. If it's true, it's kind of funny that us Ford guys have had to deal with that for the last 80 years now but they can't handle it when it's turned around on 'em.
#51
Caution: OT
I agree with both you and Doc on this theme. I probably won't show my truck either when it's finished for the same reason I won't take my Cobra to a show anymore. I did a couple times but ran into way too much negativity. All I would hear is " Is it real?"... No it's unreal. Or, "It's only a kit car". Well of course it is. Can you see my pockets bulging with millions of bucks? As a matter of fact, for the record, Carroll Shelby's (RIP) creations were kit cars in the truest sense.
Pardon my rant and my off topic subject matter but I just get So irritated with the masses at times.
I agree with both you and Doc on this theme. I probably won't show my truck either when it's finished for the same reason I won't take my Cobra to a show anymore. I did a couple times but ran into way too much negativity. All I would hear is " Is it real?"... No it's unreal. Or, "It's only a kit car". Well of course it is. Can you see my pockets bulging with millions of bucks? As a matter of fact, for the record, Carroll Shelby's (RIP) creations were kit cars in the truest sense.
Pardon my rant and my off topic subject matter but I just get So irritated with the masses at times.
#53
Sorry for the hi-jack Wally
#54
#55
The original street Cobras weren't near as good as the current kit versions. The AC chassis was typical English build, tighten every bolt and nut once a week or have someone run behind with a bucket to pick up the parts that fell off. The 427's foot box was so small anyone with a shoe size bigger than 8 couldn't fit both feet in. FG bodied 32, 34 must twist the purist's panties in a knot. Or how about the all new steel bodied 32, 40 Fords or 57 Chevies? I didn't hear any screams when they put a LS3 in the old man's 57 Belair on Pawn Stars... Who gives a cr** what a park grass show critic/"expert" has to say anyhow??? Their opinion is worth what they paid for admission.
#56
I wonder what the Chevy crowd would do if they walked up to "Old Red" here with his hood open? You can read all about it here. 1948 Chevrolet Truck - Classic Trucks Magazine
Lemme preface this with testing out my flame suit.
Since I was a kid, I got Super Chevy magazine. All time fave car; 57 Chevy. My first car, 71 Camaro. I have both in my garage.
So, I consider myself a Chevy guy. But I do NOT get the whole anti-Non-Chevy thing.
If I saw that truck (btw, that's one of the better looking early 50s Chevy trucks, as I normally really dislike those grills) I'd be shocked at the engine swap.... but far from angry.
The only two reasons I'd go SBC in my truck is because I'm way more comfortable with SBCs than Fords. And because if I did a SBC in the truck, I could trade parts between all my other toys.
#57
I've always been a Ford in a Ford, Chevy in a Chevy, Dodge in a Dodge etc. kind of guy. But it does do my heart good to see a SBF in a Chevy just from what all has been done to Ford's over the years. But if it started becoming a huge thing I'd get tired of seeing that too and want folks to start putting the SBC's back in the chevy's. Just the way I am.
But do I get in a discussion or argument with the owner? Nope, because at the end of the day it's his truck/car and what I think doesn't amount to a hill of beans. But if it's a friend, sure I'll rib him about it but never to the point of being angry.
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This is not a true statement. My first truck was a 350 Chevy powered 48 and my current is a 302 powered 49. The same engine rebuilder did both engines and the Ford cost about $200 more. The transmission rebuild was done by the same rebuilder but the FMX was $200 more. Every time I go looking for a small part I find a dozen Chevy parts to one Ford and the Chevy parts are cheaper every time simply because they are more plentiful. The aftermarket intake manifold was more expensive, the starter, the radiator, the driveshaft yoke, and the list goes on. I figure I have spent a minimum of $1000 or more on this build just due to it having a Ford engine/transmission so far...
#60
This is not a true statement. My first truck was a 350 Chevy powered 48 and my current is a 302 powered 49. The same engine rebuilder did both engines and the Ford cost about $200 more. The transmission rebuild was done by the same rebuilder but the FMX was $200 more. Every time I go looking for a small part I find a dozen Chevy parts to one Ford and the Chevy parts are cheaper every time simply because they are more plentiful. The aftermarket intake manifold was more expensive, the starter, the radiator, the driveshaft yoke, and the list goes on. I figure I have spent a minimum of $1000 or more on this build just due to it having a Ford engine/transmission so far...
Now, transmissions are certainly a different matter with the options out there. But irrespective of transmission, I'm seeing very little difference here comparing what friends spend building Chevy's and the Ford's I've built.
For instance, using some of the items you descibed, I went to Summit racing just now and compared the same brand carb intake, aluminum heads, radiator and starter for SBF and SBC. Price was within 10 bucks. Which surprised me since often times shopping at the same place, the prices can be quite different. That's why I usually shop around and buy parts from different places and it makes a big difference....especially with the smaller parts stores.
But I don't want to get in a huge discussion about this topic....for one thing it's a bit OT and the fact that the huge difference in pricing across the country, we could talk about it and compare for days on end. I'll just agree that in your situation you were able to build a SBC cheaper and that in my area I was able to build SBF's just as cheap and we'll leave it at that. I just wanted to discuss it briefly since you said I made an "untrue" statement which I take that as I'm "lying" which couldn't be more false. No hard feelings, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but my integrity won't let me not respond.